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Old 06-24-2016, 07:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Tweaking all the parameters to get best performance is where it becomes pricey and time consuming. Many inventors have a terrible time deciding to freeze a design for manufacture.
The hallmark of a unicorn and still doesn't explain why no one can replicate the technology.

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I figured as much about the unicorn aspect, I was just wondering if the idea had any kind of merit. The website is How2SaveFuel.com but I can't seem to find the video on YouTube...

Lots of dead links on the site and the "upcomming calendar" on the right is all dated for 2009.
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The galactic douche nugget showed up on my facebook page....here's link to it I found. Needless to say.....so I won't.

 
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On a positive note, he dropped the free energy claim...at least in that video. This kind of techno-evangelist hype is typical of the genre. Using glass canning jars instead of a purpose built shatter-resistant setup or a dry cell is also part of the appeal for that target market. Folks want to see bubbles.

In checking out some hho videos and sites, it was pointed out that with computer controlled engines, the benefits are short-term. Once the computer compensates for the imbalance, it negates the benefit. You have to have the computer tuned for the new mix. With the improved combustion, there is also a risk of overheating the engine before you get things tweaked. It is highly recommended that there be an exhaust manifold temp sensor installed.
 
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Thanks Chaz, that the guy! Case closed, nothing but hot air apparently.
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Use lots of big solar cells at home for the electrolysis and a high pressure commpressor to store the h and the o then use them in a car or truck for water vapor emissions. The whole setup would be fun and expensive to make, but would never pay for itself. Using the charging system in your car to run one is a joke. Water is made of h and o, but it's like ash in that it has already burnt.
 
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In checking out some hho videos and sites, it was pointed out that with computer controlled engines, the benefits are short-term. Once the computer compensates for the imbalance, it negates the benefit. You have to have the computer tuned for the new mix. With the improved combustion, there is also a risk of overheating the engine before you get things tweaked. It is highly recommended that there be an exhaust manifold temp sensor installed.
The typical unicorn "it wont work because" statement.
A few years ago it wouldn't work because the HHO would rust the exhaust manifold out and you need a stainless steel one, which is not true.
Those garbage HHO bubblers don't do enough to over heat the engine under any circumstances.
Plus if that much heat was being rejected through the exhaust and coolant system then its highly inefficient. "Over heating" is not a condition of "improved efficiency".
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Use a high pressure commpressor to store the h and the o
A few years ago a retard HHO scientists Darwin awarded him self and injured 2 other people doing this.
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You don't need the compression step.

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Use lots of big solar cells at home for the electrolysis and a high pressure commpressor to store the h and the o then use them in a car or truck for water vapor emissions. The whole setup would be fun and expensive to make, but would never pay for itself. Using the charging system in your car to run one is a joke. Water is made of h and o, but it's like ash in that it has already burnt.
Electrolysis is unaffected by pressure, thus, you simply use a version of the Hoffman Apparatus and let the electrolyser compress your O2 and H2 gasses to your desired pressures. There is the issue of the unbalance output of H2 vs O2 so there will be some valving at the least.

 
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