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Old 09-16-2012, 01:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hyundai bringing us a dream car?

I just found this thread over at another forum
2013 Cruze Diesel may get 50 mpg with Automatic - CleanMPG Forums

There's a guy in there hinting at an i30 (Elantra basically) turbo diesel coming to the US next year. He's also implying close to 100mpg. This seems way to good to be true, just wondering if anyone here had heard any rumors along these lines.

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Old 09-16-2012, 03:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I just read everything there and looked into it elsewhere and the best I can find is a 62MPG rating on a 1.6 VGT diesel in an i30/Elantra.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That would be good enough for me. Is it actually coming to the US though? Could you link articles or sources?
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From first hand experience I am a little leery of the EPA ratings for Hyundai-Kia cars and SUVs. The wifes Sorento is rated at 32 highway. On an identical road trip comparing my Fiesta and her Sorento, a road where the speed limit is 55 MPH, my Fiesta will do 50 MPG (EPA 38 highway) and her Sorento will barely hit 32 MPG (rated 32 highway).

Looking at Fuelly I see others with the same experience in the Kia-Hyundai cars. The wifes previous car, a Nissan Rogue, would easily beat the Kia Sorento in every comparison of mileage, even though the Rogue's highway rating was 5 MPG lower.

If I buy another Kia-Hyundai vehicle I will probably rent one and see how close it's actual mileage is compared to EPA ratings.

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Old 09-16-2012, 07:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well I would be all over the Fiesta econetic but Ford has pretty much said screw the US when it comes to offering them here.
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If you look like it like that, it is too good to be true. The guy over there is the admin Wayne Gerdes and that triple digit number will come from extreme hypermiling.
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Best you can expect from a 1.6 diesel Elantra without hypermiling (conservativr driving, all highway) is around 60 mpg or less.

The 2.0 the Cruze uses is good for around 50 with a stick, maybe. The auto around 45 mpg, I'd wager... Though I never got to try it on a long highway trip.

Ford here in the ASEAN has also basically said it's not worth bringing the new Focus TDCi in. Shame. The old one could get 50 mpg and hit 60 mph in 7.8 seconds wiith the 135 hp engine. The new one should be spectacular.
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Ok, that makes a little more sense. If 100 is possible with extreme hypermiling on the stock vehicle though, that would still be pretty impressive.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It would be. Highest I've heard for Hyundai is around the 30 km/l (70mpg) range for the diesel 1.5s. I remember a Hyundai Getz with that little mill beat a Prius in an eco-challenge around London.
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"with the 2.0L Turbo diesel, I think it will be the most fuel efficient compact on the road today and possibly tomorrow."
Does Gerdes / CleanMPG get sponsored by Chevy ?

It won't be what he's claiming - not today, not tomorrow.

These are real world numbers for Diesel Cruzes in the EU :
Overview: Chevrolet - Cruze - Spritmonitor.de

In terms of FE, it's nowhere near spectacular - a VW TDi will outdo it.
And quite a few other European cars will - or rather DO - outperform it regarding FE.

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