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Old 09-17-2012, 03:33 AM   #11 (permalink)
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As well as performance. The auto on the Cruze VCDi is nothing to write home about.

Had to drive one round the racetrack last year, playing shepherd to a bunch of newbies. The lag on downshifting in every corner was so bad that I had to enter corners as hot as possible and trailbrake, just to avoid the need to shift a gear lower for the exit. (I was pushing hard because I was trying to catch a wayward driver in a Volvo T4 )

And that's the point at where you start to curse the weight of that ironblock diesel...

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Old 09-17-2012, 10:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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From first hand experience I am a little leery of the EPA ratings for Hyundai-Kia cars and SUVs. The wifes Sorento is rated at 32 highway. On an identical road trip comparing my Fiesta and her Sorento, a road where the speed limit is 55 MPH, my Fiesta will do 50 MPG (EPA 38 highway) and her Sorento will barely hit 32 MPG (rated 32 highway).

Looking at Fuelly I see others with the same experience in the Kia-Hyundai cars. The wifes previous car, a Nissan Rogue, would easily beat the Kia Sorento in every comparison of mileage, even though the Rogue's highway rating was 5 MPG lower.

If I buy another Kia-Hyundai vehicle I will probably rent one and see how close it's actual mileage is compared to EPA ratings.

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There are many complaints with kia/hyundai mileage. I've seen ads on this site for a law firm that is trying to put together a class action against them due to the abnormally high EPA ratings for what people are actually getting with their vehicles.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I rented a Kia Rio and got horrible mileage in Kennesaw GA last July, I had it for 3 weeks and put close to 1,300 miles on it. I averaged 32MPG.

I do hear the Elantra does better though.
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Ok, that makes a little more sense. If 100 is possible with extreme hypermiling on the stock vehicle though, that would still be pretty impressive.
For what it's worth, the Gen 1 Honda Insight gets 95mph on the highway at 55 mph, stock, with summer temps.

You can still get used ones.

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Old 09-17-2012, 06:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I rented a Kia Rio and got horrible mileage in Kennesaw GA last July, I had it for 3 weeks and put close to 1,300 miles on it. I averaged 32MPG.

I do hear the Elantra does better though.
Drove my girlfriend's Rio out to New York and got around 40mpg mostly 70mph.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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For what it's worth, the Gen 1 Honda Insight gets 95mph on the highway at 55 mph, stock, with summer temps.

You can still get used ones.

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Sure, but I've been checking on and off for them and have yet to see a manual that isn't listed thousands above blue book/edumunds/whatever.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I got 33 combined in my Forte before any mods. Rated at 28.

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