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Old 04-16-2016, 07:47 AM   #11 (permalink)
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And coming to you soon....the bicycle tax per mile.
Haven't really heard of one yet, but somebody has to pay for all those white stripes.

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Old 04-16-2016, 08:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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If you use the road you should have to help pay for the road.
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Old 04-16-2016, 10:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I agree with you guys that everyone should have to pay their share for use of the road. But I though that was why we have toll roads; if you want to use this section of road, it will cost you X dollars. If EVs are that big of a problem for Illinois, isn't there a way to tax the energy coming from the public or private charging stations? I presume when you charge at home it comes through a controller of some sort that could monitor usage and be charged/taxed differently than the residence. Of course that method ONLY applies to EVs and doesn't shaft all the driver's, lining more pockets with middle class' money. Best way to make the most money is still tax everyone I guess.
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The point is that roads are a necessity. You cannot have a working society without them.
Supplies to the shops. Employees to their companies. Your mail.
Everyone benefits by an efficient road system; even those who don't use it themselves.

So, what will you tax? Road usage, or road benefit?

It may seem logical to lay the cost at the users, but it isn't with other institutions like care for the elderly, the penitentiary system, the army, etc.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_t..._United_States

Lets see they tax gasoline so they can maintain the roads, also tax cars, repair parts, licenses, registration, tires have an additional tax and another fee added for disposal, even though you can build houses out of worn out tires. Don't forget vehicle property taxes, city-county tags, road tolls, business taxes and licenses for those who fix cars, drivers license fees.

So now that we drive using very little fuel they now need to add more taxes just in case we use electricity, which has it's own taxes, fees, line connection fee-tax, surcharges, etc.

I'm absolutely sure I missed something.

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If you use the road you should have to help pay for the road.
The day they tax bicycles for road use is the day the knobbies go back on the MTB and I rip through everyone's yard.
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What pot does the road construction and repair money come from? Not the check I write to my town clerk every year, and not any sales tax on brake pads. Toll money doesn't usually get too far from the road charging the toll.

I'm a big fan of raising the gas tax, but as plug-ins start getting out there we do need to look at other ways- and taxing car specific electricity isn't going to work at all.
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Since when do users have to be the ones to pay for it?

Do I use pro sports stadiums? No. Do I pay for them? Yes.

Do parents pay for schools? No. Do property owners? Yes.

Hmmmmm
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When are they going to start taxing the air you breathe?
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Since when do users have to be the ones to pay for it?

Do I use pro sports stadiums? No. Do I pay for them? Yes.

Do parents pay for schools? No. Do property owners? Yes.

Hmmmmm
Well unlike stadiums, everyone benefits from the roads in one way or another as RedDevil pointed out. I'd be more ok with being taxed if I actually saw the money being used toward something. People buy gas all day, every day and yet the roads around me keep getting sh!ttier every year. Adding another tax for the EVs to "pay their share" annoys me becuase we all know the money is just gong to be wasted.

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