Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Introductions
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-29-2008, 11:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
A madman
 
brucey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: WV
Posts: 1,018

Pequod - '17 Subaru Outback
90 day: 22.79 mpg (US)
Thanks: 73
Thanked 183 Times in 98 Posts
Send a message via AIM to brucey
Improving and tracking.

Hello, it's me.

Just another person looking to improve his MPG on his wagon until long distance EV's become the norm. I regularly make a 400 mile trip, so I can't use an electric car now. I do have my beloved schwinn stealth though. Its my main way of commuting in my town.



Although I do use the car to carpool, or to get large amounts of groceries, etc. Anything that can't be done in the stealth.

The car is none other than the lesbaru.



Its a wonderfully practical car, the 2.5 engine and 3400 lb curb weight (plus my tools, plus about 50 lbs of soundproofing) make it fall in the 'not too swift' category. But even with its 9 Inches of ground clearance and ridiculously useful trunk space. It doesen't change the fact that gas is 3.50 a gallon, always going up, I sometimes have to put 400 mile trips on it, and well, I'm a cheap *******.

So here I am. I've been reading about aero modding and plan to do it soon, since its all high speed interstate travel (70 mph). I'm not too sure how extreme I want to go. I want to keep the car as practical as possible, if only because thats the whole purpose of it. I dont like the idea of lowering it or killing the approach angles. It sees some regular subaru abuse. Although increasing the underbody drag coefficient is just the excuse I need for some more 3/16 skid plates.

First thing I think I'm going to do is make the roof basket moveable. When on the interstate I can toss it inside the trunk, still have it, but save me a lot of drag with it off. I know it costs me 1~2 mpg, and with some sort of quick release it wouldnt be too much hassle.


Last edited by brucey; 03-29-2008 at 11:24 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 03-29-2008, 11:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
Dartmouth 2010
 
SVOboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hanover, NH
Posts: 6,447

Vegan Powa! - '91 Honda CRX DX
Team Honda
90 day: 66.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 92
Thanked 122 Times in 90 Posts
Send a message via AIM to SVOboy Send a message via MSN to SVOboy Send a message via Yahoo to SVOboy
Welcome to ecomodder! Looks like you're off to a great start,
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2008, 11:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,530

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 62.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,078
Thanked 6,978 Times in 3,613 Posts
Hi brucey - welcome.

I'd also recommend getting the lower bumper cover back on the car... (is it missing in that photo?), and then gradually blocking the grille.

Got a ScanGauge on order yet?
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 12:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
A madman
 
brucey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: WV
Posts: 1,018

Pequod - '17 Subaru Outback
90 day: 22.79 mpg (US)
Thanks: 73
Thanked 183 Times in 98 Posts
Send a message via AIM to brucey
Thats part of the approach angle problem. I regularly drug the stock front end on the farm or country roads (West Virginia) and one day someone hit me in the parking lot, and it was draggin the entire way home. I simply cut it off. I'm hoping I can think of how to round out the front and keep the approach angle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 11:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 80

beamer - '91 bmw 318is
90 day: 32 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
You're as well off too taking an extra hour reduce your speed to 60-65, even 2-3 or 4-5 miles per hour off that 70 will save fuel. Either way it's going to take time, as far as investments go, this is just my take on it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 02:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
A madman
 
brucey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: WV
Posts: 1,018

Pequod - '17 Subaru Outback
90 day: 22.79 mpg (US)
Thanks: 73
Thanked 183 Times in 98 Posts
Send a message via AIM to brucey
I'm not so sure how much slowing down has helped me. I dont know if its the permanent AWD or the hills I drive through, but doing 60 mph I get around 28 mpg.

Doing around 68 mph, I get around 28 mpg. I've tested both several times, and its pretty consistent.

I do have an automatic though, which sucks mpg, but I can still get better gas mileage out of it I'm sure. I'm thinking between 60 and 68 mph that something is happening to the awd features and almost all available power is going to the front, the torque converter is locking up. Or something.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 03:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
Giant Moving Eco-Wall
 
DifferentPointofView's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Dale, IL (or A-Dale)
Posts: 1,120

The Jeep! - '95 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ Laredo
90 day: 23.75 mpg (US)

The Caliber - '07 Dodge Caliber R/T
90 day: 30.6 mpg (US)

The 'Scort - '98 Ford Escort LX
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
I'm all with you with approach angles. screw up the angle and you've got a screwed up bumper.

Take the grille block advise. I never really go over 55, and an upper grille block helped me 2mpg from last tank at 20.22 to this tank at 22.56. I know I can do better.

For you, you could see way better than that, especially at 70mph.
__________________


Yea.. I drive a Jeep and I'm on a fuel economy site, but you just wouldn't understand... "It's a Jeep thing!" *Jeep Wave*

Did I Use Too Many Abbreviations? Here's The Abbreviations List
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 03:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
HJC
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: California
Posts: 11

Tacoma - '03 Toyota Tacoma Base
90 day: 26.17 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I read there was a fuse that can be pulled or put on to enable only FWD only mode on certain Subaru models. Supposedly used when the vehicle is being towed or something. I see it in my Impreza owners manual so it could be for yours too.

That would make for a nifty interior switch.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 02:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
A madman
 
brucey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: WV
Posts: 1,018

Pequod - '17 Subaru Outback
90 day: 22.79 mpg (US)
Thanks: 73
Thanked 183 Times in 98 Posts
Send a message via AIM to brucey
I had two short trips to do the other day, so I decided to try out the grill block. I screwed it up somehow, because I had 2 mpg from removing the grill block. I think the sample was just too small.

Also, the FWD fuse is a BAD idea. It will tear out the clutch pack (AWD) in short order. But thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll make a new thread sometime.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 11:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
Giant Moving Eco-Wall
 
DifferentPointofView's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Dale, IL (or A-Dale)
Posts: 1,120

The Jeep! - '95 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ Laredo
90 day: 23.75 mpg (US)

The Caliber - '07 Dodge Caliber R/T
90 day: 30.6 mpg (US)

The 'Scort - '98 Ford Escort LX
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
What were you trying to use for a grille block? and how was the sample too small?

Disabling AWD is a pretty bad Idea, it's like having an automatic EOC in gear. It's not 4wd you know.

__________________


Yea.. I drive a Jeep and I'm on a fuel economy site, but you just wouldn't understand... "It's a Jeep thing!" *Jeep Wave*

Did I Use Too Many Abbreviations? Here's The Abbreviations List
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com