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Old 07-06-2014, 10:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Uh, this statement has a problem:

Aluminum is MORE costly than steel -- firstly, in raw material cost and, secondly, in manufacturing costs. Maybe someone left out an "...and..." between the words, like this "...materials, and possibly..."?
I think this is just a semantics error but likewise...

The raw material used to make aluminum is cheaper than dirt, sadly the holy grail of auto engineering has been how to make that dirt into aluminum for less than steel, no one I know of has ever figured that part out.

But if they did aluminum is much more abundant and easier to get than iron ore!

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Old 07-07-2014, 02:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I think this is just a semantics error but likewise...

The raw material used to make aluminum is cheaper than dirt, sadly the holy grail of auto engineering has been how to make that dirt into aluminum for less than steel, no one I know of has ever figured that part out.

But if they did aluminum is much more abundant and easier to get than iron ore!
Heh. Modern alchemy.

I still think they would convert lead to gold if they could, but aluminum is pretty useful, too.
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You obviously haven't heard of Tesla's Supercharger.
Charges at >250 miles per hour of charging. Sometimes >300. And they are slowly updating various chargers to increase this to much faster.

It is not yet known if the "Model E" will have this feature or not.
I have heard of it but there are still a limited number of them and unless you plan on only following the network of them they only do so much good if you're going to spots that aren't in the network then what? And it's still an hour you're stuck somewhere vs 5-10 minutes for gas.
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I wonder if the supercharger stations get congested?
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Oh gawd, can you imagine having to wait inline behind some SMUG ahole with another vehicle at a charging station?

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Oh gawd, can you imagine having to wait inline behind some SMUG ahole with another vehicle at a charging station?
...a smug-aholier Tesla owner has a Dual Charger at home.
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From what I'm reading it should have around a 200 mi range. While that's better than most, it's still not enough for many people to make it their main car. I say this as someone who owns and drives a leaf daily, and can't wait for my lease to be up. I love my car, but I feel very constrained by its range.
EVs now aren't supposed to replace a main car. They are good for families that own more than 1 vehicle, which is most families. As long as 1 of the vehicles has a petrol engine, who cares what range the EV has? It would only be used for getting groceries and commuting to work.



The range and recharge data is available to the consumer before purchase, so none of this should come as a surprise. I would buy a used Model E for $15k if they were available.

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I wonder if the supercharger stations get congested?
If you live in Detroit, Oregon, you have your choice of 6 charging stations. That's 1 charger for every 34 people that live in the town!

The map in the link below is literally the entire town. I discovered the chargers a couple months ago while driving into the wilderness to camp.

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I plan on building my own electric car one day and guess where I would charge it.... HOME. I would use it for commute, groceries, and fun. The road trips will be using a large suv.
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Oh gawd, can you imagine having to wait inline behind some SMUG ahole with another vehicle at a charging station?
Exactly what if they want to talk the whole time just because you both have teslas!

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