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Old 04-12-2019, 11:33 AM   #3011 (permalink)
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A video on Cd, that includes some familiar vehicles, near the end:
Okay, now I feel like an uninformed noob.

Have we discussed the Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles; 1993-2001 in the forum before?

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The partnership, formed in 1993, involved eight federal agencies,[1] the national laboratories, universities, and the United States Council for Automotive Research (USCAR), which comprises DaimlerChrysler, Ford Motor Company and General Motors Corporation.






I don't even recognize any of the cars.

The people publishing that video Neil posted are based in the UK apparently.

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Old 04-12-2019, 12:17 PM   #3012 (permalink)
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I don't even recognize any of the cars.
Does one of three count? I remember the rear cooling on the GM car. The DaimlerChrysler one I think is the beginning of Chrysler's 'cab-forward' style.

But yeah, that gooberment program was a dry hole.
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Does one of three count? I remember the rear cooling on the GM car. The DaimlerChrysler one I think is the beginning of Chrysler's 'cab-forward' style.

But yeah, that gooberment program was a dry hole.
Chevy Volt + 2007 Impala had a baby?
Ford 500 renamed Taurus
Dodge Intrepid and sister cars

All bore fruit in one form or another?
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I had seen the GM Precept and the Ford Prodigy - I think they are included on this thread. The Chrysler ESX-3 name is new to me, but it does look like the precursor to the Intrepid.

The problem is that none of these led to any 70-80MPG cars.
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......... The Chrysler ESX-3 name is new to me, but it does look like the precursor to the Intrepid.

The problem is that none of these led to any 70-80MPG cars.
This show car below was 1987 back when Chrysler and Lamborghini were in bed with each other, and it was mid-engine.


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Correct in that this government collaboration didn't lead to 70-80 MPG cars, but I don't want this to be a conspiracy thread do you?
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We could fork it into The Lounge. My theory is that Big AC is as oppressive as Big Oil.
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GM Precept

The Precept R&D was written up in a mechanical engineering periodical.They used an EV1 as a test mule and baseline,which measured Cd 0.197.
The 'production' Precept came in at Cd 0.163.Pretty sweet!
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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/k...4.html#agal_45

Kia Imagine concept.

Notable things are the corrugations. Across the airflow in the [aircurtain?] inlets and the lower body concavity. And annular in the air inlets at front and outlets at the back.

Also the rear hatch has a central notch/separation edge molded into the glass. I don't find a picture with the hatch open but the cutline may run across the spoiler with a glass panel left on the body. ???

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Okay, I found that in the beginning of a video about the Geneva Auto Show. Rather than continuing to cherry-pick it, here's the whole thing:
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00:53 Kia Imagine concept car
04:54 (Smart EQ) Brabus Ultimate E Shadow Edition
06:51 Smart Forease+ concept
10:30 CitroŽn AMI 1 concept quadricycle/voiture sans permis
12:51 HONDA Honda RC213V Repsol 93 Marquez motorbike (not electric!)
12:58 Italdesign DaVinci concept
14:49 GFG Style Kangaroo Leggera
16:00 Honda ePrototype
16:28 Mercedes Concept EQV
17:27 Mercedes Concept EQC
18:50 Mitsubishi Engelberg Tourer
21:14 Renault Twizzy Seat Minimo
23:12 Cupra Formentor concept
24:56 Skoda Vision iV
27:40 Lagonda All-Terrain Concept
32:46 Mazda MX5
33:25 Volkswagen ID. Buggy
35:26 Polestar 2
35:32 Pininfarina Battista
36:34 Peugeot e208
That's a lot!
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What would you call this— a Gurney flap, an external base plate?




....a bad idea?
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Yeesh! Looks like an un-aero car to me.

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