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Old 11-28-2018, 06:17 PM   #2911 (permalink)
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Yes but GM is closing a caddy Assembly plant also. Might be underperforming. Except for china, caddies aint selling either.
On the PBS NEWSHOUR they mentioned that they're gonna take a haircut now,to limit their vulnerability,and raise capital for EV,Autonomous,plus full-size pickups,SUVs,and crossovers,as 'this is what the consumer wants'.
Sedans are dead according to demand.Motorists want a condemning view of the road.

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Old 11-29-2018, 11:43 AM   #2912 (permalink)
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Some nice truck examples here:


Why aren’t buses and trucks aerodynamically shaped like cars?

https://www.quora.com/Why-aren%E2%80...aped-like-cars
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Old 11-29-2018, 05:50 PM   #2913 (permalink)
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They ask why not shaped like a car and show a Luigi Colani design? That's a close as you'll get to piloting a UFO down the road.
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Old 12-04-2018, 03:50 PM   #2914 (permalink)
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1977 Buick Skyhawk/Nighthawk

Possibly the most aero 1970's American car?



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Old 12-04-2018, 04:13 PM   #2915 (permalink)
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1977 Buick Skyhawk/Nighthawk
Same as the Chevy Monza 2+2, my older sister's boyfriend had one.

Those rear seats are worse than a Porsche 911's of the same era.

The geometry is all messed up, I was 5'-4" tall and 125 lbs and could hardly squeeze in and out. Amy length of time back there was like a Vietnamese sweatbox.

It wasn't a Vega, Pinto or Gremlin, but that's not saying much.

The AMC Spirit came along in 1978 and was a real game changer.

I did find this.

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Automo...ag_coefficient
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....the first mass production cars without any visible rain gutters were the 1975 AMC Pacer and Chevrolet Monza.
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Cd estimated by a-c: 0.4
I would imagine the 8-cyl above Cd is about the same as the 4 cyl the boyfriend had.

It looks like it would come close to fitting the Aero-Template, don't know why that one site estimates it's Cd so unfavorably. I must let a lot of air underneath it.

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https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...ick-nighthawk/

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How about a kammback 1980's Camaro concept...

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Slippery Styling Several automakers recently unveiled concept cars that are dramatically more aerodynamic than today's production vehicles — concepts like Volvo's 3CC (with a Cd 30-percent better than the S40) and Mercedes' bionic car (at 0.19 Cd). Could these companies be trying to gauge buyers' reactions to strikingly different designs — or even prepare us for more radical-looking vehicles to come?
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How about a kammback 1980's Camaro concept...

Look Ma, I'm a Civic!


It even has 50/50 folding rear seats.

I owned such a Civic for almost 12 years and 200,000 km. I still feel more attached to it than all the other cars and motorbikes I owned put together.
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Look Ma, I'm a Civic! ..........
My sister had a 4WD Civic wagon from the same era, it was amazing the amount of stuff she could fit into it.

Great for bicyclists that want their stuff in the car.

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