Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-29-2010, 12:45 AM   #31 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,919

Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi
90 day: 45.22 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,369
Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts
That reminds me of a manta ray's mouth... long thin slit, with whiskers hanging at either side.

__________________
"¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 01-29-2010, 01:46 AM   #32 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 595
Thanks: 106
Thanked 113 Times in 71 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertSmalls View Post
If I were going to build a car from scratch, it would be in the style of the Daihatsu UFE III (2005 Concept):


Daihatsu UFE-III Concept - Automobile Magazine
would it absolutely kill them to put a little bit of a roof on these effin' concepts? everyone who wants to design cars for a living needs to spend a summer in Arizona and a winter in Michigan before they can pretend they know how to engineer anything on wheels.
__________________
2005 Escape 2.3 MT 2WD
2002 Mustang 3.8 AT
2015 Ram 1500 5.7L 4WD
2002 Motobecane 700DS
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to shovel For This Useful Post:
TOOQIKK (07-05-2011)
Old 01-29-2010, 01:56 AM   #33 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,590

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,532
Thanked 3,372 Times in 2,124 Posts
My faves are when city-boy designers that have never so much as lifted a bale of hay in their whole lives design "urban" pickup trucks.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Frank Lee For This Useful Post:
chumly (11-07-2013), HHOTDI (05-31-2014)
Old 01-29-2010, 03:48 AM   #34 (permalink)
aero guerrilla
 
Piwoslaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,541

Svietlana II - '13 Peugeot 308SW e-HDI 6sp
90 day: 58.1 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,056
Thanked 629 Times in 396 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by shovel View Post
would it absolutely kill them to put a little bit of a roof on these effin' concepts? everyone who wants to design cars for a living needs to spend a summer in Arizona and a winter in Michigan before they can pretend they know how to engineer anything on wheels.
VW put a roof on the redesigned 1L prototype.
VW 1L:


VW L1:
__________________
e·co·mod·ding: the art of turning vehicles into what they should be

What matters is where you're going, not how fast.

"... we humans tend to screw up everything that's good enough as it is...or everything that we're attracted to, we love to go and defile it." - Chris Cornell

Piwoslaw's Peugeot 307sw modding thread

  Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 09:40 AM   #35 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
NeilBlanchard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,709

Mica Blue - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
Team Toyota
90 day: 42.48 mpg (US)

Forest - '15 Nissan Leaf S
Team Nissan
90 day: 156.46 mpg (US)

Number 7 - '15 VW e-Golf SEL
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 155.81 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,161
Thanked 2,735 Times in 1,708 Posts
The biggest problem I have with that Daihatsu is the entire top and sides of the middle lift up as the entry door -- and this must have a huge structural penalty. The only bit connecting the front to the back is the floor ... which is just terrible design, IMO.
__________________
Sincerely, Neil

http://neilblanchard.blogspot.com/
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 11:27 AM   #36 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 595
Thanks: 106
Thanked 113 Times in 71 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Piwoslaw View Post
VW put a roof on the redesigned 1L prototype.
VW 1L:


VW L1:
hahah people in Germany probably at least have an uncle or grandpa who once owned a Messerschmitt KR175 , who would klopf 'em upside the head any time they were trying to draw a glass canopy without a roof or vents.
__________________
2005 Escape 2.3 MT 2WD
2002 Mustang 3.8 AT
2015 Ram 1500 5.7L 4WD
2002 Motobecane 700DS
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2010, 05:28 PM   #37 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Jyden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Denmark, Europe
Posts: 338

Enduro E-bike - '11 PowerPedals Enduro
90 day: 2236 mpg (US)

Jota - '14 Toyota Yaris Hybrid H1
90 day: 53.11 mpg (US)
Thanks: 138
Thanked 42 Times in 35 Posts
Alfa Bats



Cd 0.23

"Between 1953 and 1955, Alfa Romeo and design house Bertone created a trio of aerodynamic design concepts dubbed Berlinetta Aerodinamica Tecnica or B.A.T.
The B.A.T. cars were an exploration of aerodynamic ideas in the post World War 2 era as the jet age was just beginning. With the goal of achieving the lowest possible drag coefficient, they got as low as 0.19 and managed speeds up to 125 mph from only 90 horsepower.
""

Cd 0.19


We are stille way behind. All that knowledge has been forgotten with cheap oil.

Last edited by Jyden; 01-31-2010 at 05:34 PM..
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Jyden For This Useful Post:
MasterWong (12-30-2015), rumdog (04-15-2015)
Old 01-31-2010, 05:41 PM   #38 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,919

Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi
90 day: 45.22 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,369
Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard View Post
The biggest problem I have with that Daihatsu is the entire top and sides of the middle lift up as the entry door -- and this must have a huge structural penalty. The only bit connecting the front to the back is the floor ... which is just terrible design, IMO.
It's essentially the same structural design as a convertible.

And the whole door structure is probably part of the stressed chassis when closed.
__________________
"¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"

  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2010, 05:43 PM   #39 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,919

Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi
90 day: 45.22 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,369
Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jyden View Post


Cd 0.23

"Between 1953 and 1955, Alfa Romeo and design house Bertone created a trio of aerodynamic design concepts dubbed Berlinetta Aerodinamica Tecnica or B.A.T.
The B.A.T. cars were an exploration of aerodynamic ideas in the post World War 2 era as the jet age was just beginning. With the goal of achieving the lowest possible drag coefficient, they got as low as 0.19 and managed speeds up to 125 mph from only 90 horsepower.
""

Cd 0.19


We are stille way behind. All that knowledge has been forgotten with cheap oil.
I got up to 125MPH with 90 HP in my Honda Civic. Granted, I was on a highway going in the same direction as traffic, taking advantage of the tunnel effect, and it took forever to get there, but that's not the point. I'm not sure we're really that far behind, if you consider that a goal.
__________________
"¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"

  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2010, 05:46 PM   #40 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Jyden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Denmark, Europe
Posts: 338

Enduro E-bike - '11 PowerPedals Enduro
90 day: 2236 mpg (US)

Jota - '14 Toyota Yaris Hybrid H1
90 day: 53.11 mpg (US)
Thanks: 138
Thanked 42 Times in 35 Posts
Well - us beeing here - the existance of this forum is a statement of that the carindustry as a whole had fallen behind, with regards to areodynamics and fuelconsumption....

Is'ent it?

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Electric Cars Push Japan Engine Parts Makers to Crisis Mode tjts1 The Lounge 14 12-23-2012 01:47 PM
Name that Eco Car! Quiz: identify these aerodynamic production cars MetroMPG Aerodynamics 16 08-30-2009 06:24 AM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com