Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-02-2011, 09:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: california
Posts: 1,329
Thanks: 24
Thanked 161 Times in 107 Posts
The founder was fired years ago. The management team that was put in his place has a long history of running companies into the ground. After the redesign it was only a matter of time.

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tjts1 For This Useful Post:
NeilBlanchard (12-03-2011)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 12-02-2011, 10:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
Cd
Ultimate Fail
 
Cd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 3,585
Thanks: 2,872
Thanked 1,121 Times in 679 Posts
I started seeing their demise the moment that they fumbled in the X-Prize competition with the horrible handling. The media really made a show of that.

I had hoped that they would sell a least a few before going under. That way i could perhaps buy it second hand someday.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2011, 05:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Big Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Steppes of Central Indiana
Posts: 1,319

The Red Baron - '00 Ford F-350 XLT
90 day: 27.99 mpg (US)

Impala Phase Zero - '96 Chevrolet Impala SS
90 day: 21.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 186 Times in 127 Posts
Wow! Anotherdead electric. No doubt betrayed by batteries.

It might have flown with a little diesel.
__________________
2000 Ford F-350 SC 4x2 6 Speed Manual
4" Slam
3.08:1 gears and Gear Vendor Overdrive
Rubber Conveyor Belt Air Dam
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2011, 06:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
euromodder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Belgium
Posts: 4,683

The SCUD - '15 Fiat Scudo L2
Thanks: 178
Thanked 652 Times in 516 Posts
Can't say I'm surprised or shocked

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Mechanic View Post
Wish they had started out with a simple IC vehicle, got it in production, then used the income for advancements.
That's no guarantee though.
Loremo did just that, starting with an ICE version, but they never got around to producing it either.

I was about to say Loremo is also on the verge of going belly-up, but at least there's been some activity lately, they've collected some new money and are now showing off to the Turks in Istanbul.
www.loremo.com


Yes, even the "English" version of their press info site is in German
__________________
Strayed to the Dark Diesel Side

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2011, 07:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
Polymorphic Modder
 
SoobieOut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 307

2006 DaCivic Hybrid - '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
90 day: 45.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 188
Thanked 40 Times in 25 Posts
I watched the X Prize movie, what amazed me was that CEO kept saying he put millions into this design. The car appears to me as a small airplane without wings. Nothing revolutionary here. The Tango kick it's but, and the Tango was not built for the X Prize competition. The CEO of the Tango just brought one with no crew. He would have won if he had detuned the massive electric motors.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2011, 10:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
NeilBlanchard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,907

Mica Blue - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
Team Toyota
90 day: 42.48 mpg (US)

Forest - '15 Nissan Leaf S
Team Nissan
90 day: 156.46 mpg (US)

Number 7 - '15 VW e-Golf SEL
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 155.81 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 2,950 Times in 1,844 Posts
No, they were betrayed by bad management. The founders built 8 or 10 working prototypes in one year, and then the 'Team B' built the one so-called S0-1 that failed miserably at the X-Prize -- and that is it. Oddly, it is more likely now that we'll see an Aptera sometime in the future, than before they folded.

The BOD were convinced they had to "go big" rather than build the company incrementally. And they failed utterly.
__________________
Sincerely, Neil

http://neilblanchard.blogspot.com/
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2011, 01:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 530 Times in 356 Posts
Neil -

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard View Post
No, they were betrayed by bad management. The founders built 8 or 10 working prototypes in one year, and then the 'Team B' built the one so-called S0-1 that failed miserably at the X-Prize -- and that is it. Oddly, it is more likely now that we'll see an Aptera sometime in the future, than before they folded.

The BOD were convinced they had to "go big" rather than build the company incrementally. And they failed utterly.
I agree with this and Old Mechanic. If Team A had just gotten them "on the road" with normal ICE engines then we would have been able to see the benefit of the aero and worked out the aero/suspension bugs.

CarloSW2
__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2011, 04:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
Eco-ventor
 
jakobnev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: sweden
Posts: 1,631

Princess - '92 Mazda MX-3 GS
House of Tudor
Team Mazda
90 day: 53.54 mpg (US)

Shirubāarō (*´ω`*) - '05 Toyota Prius Executive
Team Toyota
90 day: 54.88 mpg (US)

Blue Thunder - '20 Hyundai IONIQ Trend PHEV
Team Hyundai
Plug-in Hybrids
90 day: 587.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 74
Thanked 702 Times in 445 Posts
Send a message via MSN to jakobnev
I stumbled upon this thread:
Anyone have more info on this trike (boomerang 3wheel cruiser) - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com

Anyone willing to settle for a petrol powered one could possibly fiberglass and tube one from that.
__________________




2016: 128.75L for 1875.00km => 6.87L/100km (34.3MPG US)
2017: 209.14L for 4244.00km => 4.93L/100km (47.7MPG US)
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2011, 08:38 AM   #19 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
NeilBlanchard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,907

Mica Blue - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
Team Toyota
90 day: 42.48 mpg (US)

Forest - '15 Nissan Leaf S
Team Nissan
90 day: 156.46 mpg (US)

Number 7 - '15 VW e-Golf SEL
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 155.81 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 2,950 Times in 1,844 Posts
Here's an excellent interview with Steve Fambro:


__________________
Sincerely, Neil

http://neilblanchard.blogspot.com/
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com