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Old 12-13-2009, 10:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't think you fully understand how unreliable your buddy's info is (no offense). Mileage is effected by tons of variables that change by the second while driving. Commuting back and forth to work each day does not return the same mileage every fill up. I'm sure your buddy didn't take any consideration to these variables when testing his new air filter. Now, consider the testing done by MetroMPG. He controlled as many variables as he could to get consistent data. Sounds a bit better, no?

If that doesn't click, consider this. When does an engine need the most airflow? When it is generating peak horsepower. At any other point in operation, it requires less air. So, by installing a less restrictive air filter, you are simply increasing the amount of horsepower you can pull through the filter. Considering a Ranger only needs ~25 horsepower to go down the highway, a stock filter is going to have absolutely no measurable restriction at 1/4 (or much less depending on the engine) of its total horsepower generation.

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Old 12-13-2009, 11:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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As has been said, the company itself makes no fuel economy promises in their marketing. That should tell you all you need to know.

If they did make such claims, they'd have to register themselves with the EPA as selling a fuel saving product, and would probably find themselves on the wrong side of legal action eventually.

Of course, they desperately want people to think they offer some fuel saving benefit, so they let their customers' incredibly unscientific testimonials do the talking. EPA doesn't care about testimonials from a legal standpoint.
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These threads should stop now.
how'd that work for you.....


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.......like fred flinstone trying to stop going downhill.......


ps. I love the dyno tests that some of the aftermarket companys use
"...upto 15 extra hp..." ( yeah at WIDE OPEN THROTTLE) 6000 rpm +

now fess up who has even seen 6000 + rpm.......much less longer that MAYBE 30 seconds in a month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-13-2009, 11:21 PM   #24 (permalink)
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how'd that work for you.....


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.......like fred flinstone trying to stop going downhill.......
lol it failed big time.
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http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...k-n-10523.html

I like this one, the lies and B.S. for filters and intakes is typical
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I like this one, the lies and B.S. for filters and intakes is typical
Completely off topic.....(wasted thread anyway)

Back in the 80's some ad guy was at a monster truck show. Seems that there was a Volvo in the line of junkers to be squashed.....well due to superior body integrity, it was left up while all the others were flat.
The ad guy calls Volvo, they recreate the event for a tv ad, BUT, just in case.....they WELD A CAGE INSIDE THE VOLVO!!!!.

The commercial runs and somebody blabbed.....Volvo was busted and the ad guy was out of a client!!!!
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Completely off topic.....(wasted thread anyway)

Back in the 80's some ad guy was at a monster truck show. Seems that there was a Volvo in the line of junkers to be squashed.....well due to superior body integrity, it was left up while all the others were flat.
The ad guy calls Volvo, they recreate the event for a tv ad, BUT, just in case.....they WELD A CAGE INSIDE THE VOLVO!!!!.

The commercial runs and somebody blabbed.....Volvo was busted and the ad guy was out of a client!!!!
I remember that. (no watching it on TV, but I think it's on Youtube.)
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Old 12-13-2009, 11:59 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I seem to remember a commercial where a Large truck was set on top of a Volvo wagon... and it didn't crush it.

Of course, I also remember that Volvo's weigh in at like 5,000 or more for a family car.
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I don't think you fully understand how unreliable your buddy's info is (no offense). Mileage is effected by tons of variables that change by the second while driving. Commuting back and forth to work each day does not return the same mileage every fill up. I'm sure your buddy didn't take any consideration to these variables when testing his new air filter. Now, consider the testing done by MetroMPG. He controlled as many variables as he could to get consistent data. Sounds a bit better, no?

If that doesn't click, consider this. When does an engine need the most airflow? When it is generating peak horsepower. At any other point in operation, it requires less air. So, by installing a less restrictive air filter, you are simply increasing the amount of horsepower you can pull through the filter. Considering a Ranger only needs ~25 horsepower to go down the highway, a stock filter is going to have absolutely no measurable restriction at 1/4 (or much less depending on the engine) of its total horsepower generation.

These are just the results from the in car mileage calculator those new cars have
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These are just the results from the in car mileage calculator those new cars have
So how did you come by the results for your (substantially older than OBDII) car?

Butt dyno, eh?

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