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Old 04-23-2012, 03:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ladies and gentlemen start playing or building your dream car!

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Automation | The car company tycoon game

You can do pretty much everything if start learning if I have understood correctly that product...

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Old 04-23-2012, 09:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That looks awesome, but here's the question of the day... Will it tell you how efficient an engine is? If it does I think it would be a great tool to not only understand how stroke, displacement, valve size and location etc effects fuel economy, but would also be a great tool for someone to design their own super-efficient engine. Another question would be, if your design is flawed somehow, will it fail in the game? And as far as the car building aspect, is there some way of testing the structural integrity of the frame/unibody? Either way it looks like an awesome game
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm a bit suspicious as to how well the game will mimic real world dynamics since so many things can affect fuel economy. My question is just how much control do we have such that it would be useful to have this game. (Changing gear ratios, explaining how to improve engine efficiency, correct representattion of how the car body affects aerodynamics). We are talking about some serious mechanical engineering and amazing computing skills required with formulas and everything, fluid dynamics in the engine, etc. I just done see how this game could have all of that and if it did, it would have to cost hundreds of dollars due to its capabilities. How much is the game being sold for?
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I tried constructing my real engine and was fairly successful. I entered the stroke and bore, picked all of the factory materials, toyed with the cams and timing until I had it pretty damn near the real output - though it was actually a little shy of what I wanted.

It gives efficiency numbers and emmisions but they're rounded so you cant see really fine-grained changes.

My conclusion was that, given the bore and stroke and the limits of the program, I couldnt eek out one more horsepower or drop fuel consumption by a measurable amount over how it came tuned from the factory without causing knock or some kind of failure; Honda did a fine job considering the limits of the technology used.

For funsies I threw vvl amd vvt on my block to see what kinds of gains are acheivable with newer technology, and saw a 20% increase in maximum horsepower (peak torque did not change) with a potential fuel use reduction of 40%, after tweaking timing and cam profiles again.

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