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Old 01-17-2021, 05:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It's not the gases, it's the aerosols and particulates. Plus methane is a more potent gas than CO2
Pardon me, I meant lowering production of or even reducing somehow global greenhouse... uh... stuff.

I love it when it looks like everyone seems to be arguing but also seems to be saying the same thing.

"Blowing holes through Earth's crust would be a terrible idea but may reduce global temps".

"Noooo!!! Blowing holes through Earth's crust may reduce global temps but it would be a terrible idea!!!"

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Old 01-17-2021, 07:39 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Agreed it's picking nits.

I don't agree we're on track for runaway greenhouse. It could go either way ....catastrophically. And we're unprepared either way. The best path might be for everyone to stay home and work on themselves.

Do the right things for pollution, not warming.
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There are much more potent greenhouse gases than CO2, but they all degrade over time. Except for CO2, that will not degrade further - it the tightest chemical bond for carbon in the atmosphere. It will eventually get partly absorbed in sediments, but that takes tens of thousands of year to have a meaningful impact.

If we want to lower CO2 we need to do it ourselves. Stop burning fossil fuels and start harvesting plant material to boil off the lighter components, rinse out minerals and either bury the carbon or use it for permanent construction material and the like. Even then it takes an enormous effort to have any impact at all.

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