Latent Heat & Global Warming

[aerohead]

1) On July 8, 2003, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia reported a heat-index of 178-F.
2) Dry-bulb temp, was 108-F.
3) Dew Point was 95-F.
4) It was not an 'official' temperature.
5) My CARRIER psychrometric chart did not go 'high' enough to allow the 'calculation.'
6) I found an online NOAA heat-index calculator.
7) Plugging in the reported dry-bulb and dew-point temps generated 178-F heat index.
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8) With a 1-C increase in near-surface temperature, the atmosphere carries an extra 7% water vapor.
9) This water vapor increases the 'Enthalpy' ( amount of heat energy stored per unit mass ) of the air.
10) At some point, the air is 'saturated' with water vapor, 'evaporative-coolers, cooling-towers, and the human body can no longer reject heat to the environment.
11) 2,500 El Salvadorean sugar cane cutters have already dropped dead from heat death in the field, ultimately from renal failure, as it's impossible to remain hydrated, plus work.
12) As there's no public education, at least in the United States, very few people actually comprehend the threat an increasingly heated planet poses.

[freebeard]

The first time you use a word you should define it (for the lurkers convenience)

Psychrometrics
Psychrometrics, psychrometry, and hygrometry are names for the field of engineering concerned with the physical and thermodynamic properties of gas-vapor mixtures. The term comes from the Greek psuchron meaning "cold" and metron meaning "means of measurement".
More at Wikipedia

[redpoint5]

I sometimes wonder what Saudi Arabia is going to do when oil riches dry up. It seems they are only allies because their economic interests force them to mostly (9-11 aside) play nice with the rest of the world.

When humanity develops cheap and plentiful non-fossil fueled energy, they will be in a world of hurt.

With regards to the warming, I would expect water to cycle more, meaning more total global rain. I would also expect this to have a net greening effect, though it seems climate research is myopically focused on the locations where deserts will expand. I'm confused as to how we should worry about a drying planet when it's going to cycle 7% more fresh water.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I sometimes wonder what Saudi Arabia is going to do when oil riches dry up. It seems they are only allies because their economic interests force them to mostly (9-11 aside) play nice with the rest of the world.

When humanity develops cheap and plentiful non-fossil fueled energy, they will be in a world of hurt.

With regards to the warming, I would expect water to cycle more, meaning more total global rain. I would also expect this to have a net greening effect, though it seems climate research is myopically focused on the locations where deserts will expand. I'm confused as to how we should worry about a drying planet when it's going to cycle 7% more fresh water.

Quite the contrary.
And it's extremely complex.
1) Rain is a disaster for snow. It's part of the Albedo-flip feared by scientists.
2) Clouds both cool and heat. And they mainly heat.
3) If you need rain, and have moisture, and cloud condensation nuclei, there's no rain if temps are so great as to be above dew-point.
4) Rain is a disaster for ice, for the same reasons as for snow.
5) Mountain snow doesn't do you any good if it all melts prematurely.
6) Freshwater upsets the thermohaline cycle in the oceans, and can even shut it down.
7) Loss of continental glaciers cause tectonic isostatic rebound, triggering earthquakes and volcanic eruptions ( Iceland , Antarctica ), sea level rise.
8) Polar vortex instability means Jet Stream instability, with unpredictable moisture distribution.
9) Melting sea-ice = collapse of the entire marine food chain.Late freeze and early melt = 3-months of extra solar energy pouring into both poles.
10) Dry regions may become drier.
11) Wet regions may become wetter.
12) Invasive species of all kinds are moving pole-wards.
13) Atmospheric rivers and extreme rain events are on the rise.
14) Crop failures, rain, flood, hail................2019: Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas.
15) Warming oceans lose ability to capture carbon.
16) Warming oceans dump methane clathrates.
17) Landslides.
18) Mudslides.
19) Dam failures
20) Road washouts
21) Bridge washouts
22) Rapid-intensification of storms
23) Blizzards
24) Carbon-Dioxide alters water transport within the plant:
- depleting protein
- depleting iron
-depleting zinc
Rice and Wheat becomes associated with malnutrition, anemia, and disease.
25) At 104-F, photosynthesis ceases., stomata close off, evapotranspiration stops, crops can gain another 10-F.
26) Arctic rain means lichen locked below ice, reindeer starve by tens of thousands, Nenets' only source of food, Yamal Peninsula, Siberia, 2017.
27) While carbon-dioxide is a 'fertilizer' for plant growth, heat is not.
on and on and on.........................

[oil pan 4]

Further proof the dooms day global warming cult is oozing desperation.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I sometimes wonder what Saudi Arabia is going to do when oil riches dry up.

They will go back to pounding sand.

[Piotrsko]

Originally Posted by freebeard

They will go back to pounding sand.

They seem to be aware their resources are finite and are building their next scam, financial centers and tourist meccas

Pounding sand is a good answer, however.

[oil pan 4]

It's self defeating. Anyone who is intelligent enough to understand latent heat figures out the whole thing is a scam.
So you are left with all the dumb people who peaked in high school and only graduated because of football and research scientists who won't have a job without it believing in it.

[redpoint5]

The way this is presented is non-sequitur.

What does moving the earth closer to the sun have to do with melting snow? What is implied is that it would take something that drastic to melt all the snow, but what's left out is the time duration.

We could also melt all the snow if we moved the earth to the convection zone of the sun, and do so much more quickly than moving it to the orbit of Venus.

What's that got to do with CO2?

The data is pointless because it has no context and is given in the usual unreadable footnote style.

Why not relate the various bullet points so people can follow some train of logic? The only reason I can figure not to do that is if there is no train of logic to follow.

[freebeard]

He who posts with the most bullet points wins.