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Old 04-06-2012, 03:01 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:48 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:32 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I can attest to the quality of Optima batteries. I had a red top deep cycle in my sentra. left my led parking lights on for 2 days when I went out of town came back to find them still on, and the car still started. I had that battery for over 10 years in and out of 5 vehicles over that time. Still tested perfect when I left it in the jeep I sold.

One way to save some money and look at more size and cca options is to call the local interstate distributor. they sold direct to me and I saved a bunch.
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:02 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Optima batteries were my 1st choice, until I discovered lithium.
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Old 11-10-2012, 12:21 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I am considering putting in a small 135cca lithium battery in my car for a starting battery.
Fleabay has a $104 , 135cca motorcycle battery that may work.
Not sure if 135cca would suffice, being it would be a reliable near full 135cca it 'may' work.
My car calls for a big 220cca , probably to insure people can slightly abuse the battery and still start at the end of the day. My cars ac is non functioning, so its needs are factored out.

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Get the biggest battery you can fit and afford.
It will work but it wont last long.

I ran under sized lithium batteries in my diesel and they aren't holding up so well.
Thats why I am replacing the smaller 350 amp battery with a 900 amp battery. Then when the 500 amp battery I made goes I will replace it with another 900 amp battery of the same design.
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Thanks for the advice.
Damn i was hoping the lithium batteries were more durable.
I am not willing to spend more then $150 on a battery so lithium may well be out of my range.

My 2nd idea was to buy a 'battery pack with cables' used for jump starting a car, gut it and mount it.
I have one that starts cars very fast, it is getting long in the tooth now so a new one is in order, though my older jump starter still holds a charge for over a year and starts a car like that, weighs 15 lbs or so.
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If you can assemble your own battery you can get a 4 pack of A123 amp20 cells for about $130 and that would give you 450 amps for starting.
I think it would be pretty durable in a small diesel.
A single stack of AMP20 cells would be more than enough to start my diesel, during testing I got it to start with my original battery made from 20 size ANR26650 cells, which is only good for about 350 amps max and thats pushing it.

I am installing extra capacity to run lights, air compressor and inverter for power tools.
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I am curious as too why your first smaller lithium battery pack failed and why you suspect your 2nd pack will need replacing. I suspect it was because it was drained deeply continually during use ?

I made a error in my cars cca, as it turns out the car had a 700cca 875ca battery from interstate in it, when i bought it a few years back, I was way off with 220cca number. I agree that a 450cca would work with my 1.9L , the weather rarely goes below -5 all the same a battery warmer could easily be employed.

My car jumper battery pack is rated for 700 Amps, its a MotorMaster Eliminator Mobile 700 A power pack.

I may not be able to successfully charge it from the alternator, it charges now at a slow AC charging rate, it may well not like to be rapid charged. It has a 12v receptacle on the front for charging from a car, although slowly..
I am going to dig a little deeper into its battery type AH and its charging ability's.

The Lithium's are pricey! although they are light for shipping..
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:23 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I measured my 6.5L 22:1 compression diesel drawing about 330 amps at start up.
My batteries are on fork lift quick dissconnects so I can pull them when it gets real cold, like it is tonight, weather service is calling for mid 20s.

The only reason I think the 20 cell is failing so soon is because it discharged down pretty low when it was sitting on a shelf for about a month.

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