11-02-2019, 03:22 PM
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Lithium battery megafactories in pipeline
Over at benchmarkminerals.com website,they're showing 68-Lithium battery mega-factories in the pipeline,with a capacity of 1.45-TW-h by 2028.
EV sales are beginning to hockey-stick,we're over 5-millon sales,globally, as of December,2018,and US sales rose 81%.
Top-5 producers as of January,2019, were: TESLA/Panasonic,LG Chem,CATL,CATL,and LG Chem.
I ran some numbers based upon a back-to-back comparison,by CAR and DRIVER,between a Tesla S and BMW 5-series.Due to the thermal inefficiency of internal combustion,it's possible to operate more than 5X as many electric cars as ICE,with no more net energy.The BMW had the equivalent of a 318-kWh pack and got no more range than the Tesla,with 78.3-kWhs.And even though the Tesla cost 14.4% more on the front end,it ultimately cost 25.4% less to 'fuel',over a 30-year transition to a zero-carbon economy.
Apologize if this is redundant info.
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11-02-2019, 03:48 PM
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Once they start becoming standard in starting battery applications is when to take notice.
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11-02-2019, 11:13 PM
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The useful idiot nimbys here in NM are trying to stop a new cobalt mine from opening.
Once people realize how much buying gas all the time sucks we are going to need a lot more batteries.
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11-03-2019, 04:08 AM
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2019 US sales are on target to fall short of 2018 sales. It might be a hockey stick, but sadly in the wrong direction.
It will happen, but not just yet.
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11-03-2019, 02:03 PM
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2019 US sales are on target to fall short of 2018 sales. It might be a hockey stick, but sadly in the wrong direction.
It will happen, but not just yet.
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Pure BEV sales dropped rebounded and dropped again in Wisconsin after the EV TAX + title increases.
Outside CARB, I think the wait will be very long for any significant change
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11-04-2019, 11:59 PM
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Due to the thermal inefficiency of internal combustion,it's possible to operate more than 5X as many electric cars as ICE,with no more net energy.
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But I just saw somebody claim electric cars pollute just as much because everybody gets their electricity [only] by burning fuel. Could they be 'blowing smoke'?
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11-05-2019, 06:58 AM
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Yes they could.
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11-05-2019, 12:04 PM
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But I just saw somebody claim electric cars pollute just as much because everybody gets their electricity [only] by burning fuel.
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You're just repeating the two decade old, pro-fossil fuel propaganda, as if you didn't know it, already. Pretending ignorance, shows with clarity, your connection to dead old propaganda. |
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11-05-2019, 12:20 PM
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Methinks you've fallen into a sacrchasm.
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11-05-2019, 01:11 PM
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NOpe! It is a racist, sexist, xenophobic, agoraphobic, coulrophobic, something about T-rUmP, lactose intolerant, climate denier.
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