Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > DIY / How-to
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-30-2020, 10:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
TDI -> EV -> ?
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mild Hybrid - DIY EV Conversion Motor?

Hello,
I've been reading for some time, but this is my first post. I really enjoy this creative community!

I was reading random things on the internet when the thought came to me that the motor/generator from a mild hybrid like the Ram eTorque could be used for a DIY EV motorcycle or light vehicle.

A CNET (ref. "2020-ram-1500-laramie-4x4-crew-cab-5-7-box-review") article indicated that the system adds 16 hp and 130 lb-ft of torque. The system only uses 48v, so DIY friendly (not hundreds).

Has anyone else had this thought? Does anyone know if there are already threads on this?

BTW, I'm a ME, not EE or Programmer, so I don't know about the details about how to make it work, once connected.

I would love to hear what others think.

__________________
Ben

Vehicle History: •1996 VW Passat Wagon TDI, Green – Rear-ended Totaled, •1979 Ford F-150 351M 4spd, 4x4, Dark Red – Needs to go, multiple issues, •1996 Passat Sedan, TDI, Grey – Gone, •1996 VW Passat Wagon TDI, Grey – Needs to go, •2013 Nissan LEAF, Silver – Daily Driver, •2011 Ford Expedition EL 4x4
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 10-30-2020, 10:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
Somewhat crazed
 
Piotrsko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,431
Thanks: 541
Thanked 1,207 Times in 1,064 Posts
Bunches of threads regarding this on DIYELECTRICCARS, but I haven't seen one completed yet which isn't an indication of anything.

Which way are you leaning: GM starter alternator or motor drive line attached?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2020, 11:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 1,745

Volt, gas only - '12 Chevrolet Volt Premium
90 day: 38.02 mpg (US)

Volt, electric only - '12 Chevrolet Volt Premium
90 day: 132.26 mpg (US)

Yukon Denali Hybrid - '12 GMC Yukon Denali Hybrid
90 day: 21.48 mpg (US)
Thanks: 206
Thanked 420 Times in 302 Posts
The only flaw I can imagine with using that motor would be if its rated for continuous use. I'm not real familiar with them, 16hp but 130lbft... does it have a gear reduction?
__________________




  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2020, 11:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Stubby79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 1,747

Firefly EV - '98 Pontiac Firefly EV
90 day: 107.65 mpg (US)

Little Boy Blue - '05 Toyota Echo
90 day: 33.35 mpg (US)

BlueZ - '19 Nissan 370Z Sport
90 day: 17.19 mpg (US)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 577 Times in 426 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ksa8907 View Post
The only flaw I can imagine with using that motor would be if its rated for continuous use. I'm not real familiar with them, 16hp but 130lbft... does it have a gear reduction?
The 130 is due to the pulley ratio between the motor and the engine. It's rated at 49 ftlbs...which is still nothing to sneeze at!

Controlling it would be the problem. You'd either need to be an electronics/programming whiz, or else need to source out your own inverter/controller.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2020, 12:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
Somewhat crazed
 
Piotrsko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,431
Thanks: 541
Thanked 1,207 Times in 1,064 Posts
It driveable with a toy airplane high voltage/current 3phase controller, so anything chinese of sufficient current and voltage would work.

like a golf cart controller.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2020, 12:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Stubby79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 1,747

Firefly EV - '98 Pontiac Firefly EV
90 day: 107.65 mpg (US)

Little Boy Blue - '05 Toyota Echo
90 day: 33.35 mpg (US)

BlueZ - '19 Nissan 370Z Sport
90 day: 17.19 mpg (US)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 577 Times in 426 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsko View Post
It driveable with a toy airplane high voltage/current 3phase controller, so anything chinese of sufficient current and voltage would work.

like a golf cart controller.
Only problem is...a high(enough) voltage & current BLDC controller is a couple of grand, at least...
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2020, 12:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
Somewhat crazed
 
Piotrsko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,431
Thanks: 541
Thanked 1,207 Times in 1,064 Posts
Nah, couple hundred for a 48v, 300 amp controllers on ALI or fleabay. Will they make rated? Who knows.

Last edited by Piotrsko; 10-30-2020 at 12:32 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2020, 12:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Stubby79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 1,747

Firefly EV - '98 Pontiac Firefly EV
90 day: 107.65 mpg (US)

Little Boy Blue - '05 Toyota Echo
90 day: 33.35 mpg (US)

BlueZ - '19 Nissan 370Z Sport
90 day: 17.19 mpg (US)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 577 Times in 426 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsko View Post
Nah, couple hundred for a 100v, 300 amp controllers on ALI or fleabay. Will they make rated? Who knows.
Brushless?

My $100 80a peak/40a cont. 100v peak controller was a steal, as far as I am concerned.

Plain DC motor controllers come in that price range.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2020, 03:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,715
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,933 Times in 7,375 Posts
Quote:
Has anyone else had this thought? Does anyone know if there are already threads on this?
ecomodder.com: Controller mods or build for E-assist altermotor
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2020, 04:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
teoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Istanbul
Posts: 1,245

A3 - '12 Audi A3
Thanks: 65
Thanked 225 Times in 186 Posts
I have had my eye on this:

https://odriverobotics.com/

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to teoman For This Useful Post:
freebeard (10-31-2020)
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com