My acetone results

[Christ]

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dan

The purpose, as I understand it, of Ecomodder is to increase fuel efficiency in our vehicles. Any of the compounds that we were discussing, other than the stated ones in your gasoline, in the ppm or ppb range are not going to significantly affect the miles per gallon of your vehicle.

In our area, we are not allowed to have even 1 ppm of MTBE, mostly due to the contamination of ground water than can occur. For awhile we were producing and even selling MTBE. That portion of our plant was shut down and dismantled when the studies of the harmful effects of MTBE came out.

I seem to have offended you and I am sorry if you feel offended. My purpose was to inform and possibly warn you and others about the components in gasoline that are dangerous.

The Acetone that you were adding and the Propane, Butanes and Pentanes in the gasoline are components that can flash at room temperatures and will float in the air, when given the chance.

Not offended, just providing references as to what is actually in gasoline. Regionally, it could be formulated differently, but I wasn't lying when I said it was there.

[pstrbrc]

I've tried acetone. I live out in very rural farm country, where the quality of gas is definitely lower tier. Finding anything more than 87 octane at most stations is a surprise. So, I tried it. At 2.39 a gallon gasoline and 12.39 a gallon of acetone, it was slightly worse than a wash. But....
When a car sits over the winter (or in the case of my Merc, over the summer because the A/C don't work!) tossing in a couple of ounces per 10 gallons of what got left in the tank is a good way of restoring the volatile level. Same thing with the gas I store for the generator. And every "new" car I latch onto gets a couple tanks enhanced with acetone, because it cleans a fuel system out as good as seafoam, and I always have a can of it in the garage.
But I agree that it's bogus as an ongoing fuel saving technique.

[rgathright]

Dad, do not worry. We jump on each other all the time online. Just the name of the game in these communities.

I will say that Dan comes from 30+ years of working with gasoline/oil testing and knows more about what is in these compounds than 99.999% of all Americans.

If you have any follow up questions, please ask them since he can give you some very, voluminous, discussions on petrochemical mixtures.

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dan

The purpose, as I understand it, of Ecomodder is to increase fuel efficiency in our vehicles. Any of the compounds that we were discussing, other than the stated ones in your gasoline, in the ppm or ppb range are not going to significantly affect the miles per gallon of your vehicle.

In our area, we are not allowed to have even 1 ppm of MTBE, mostly due to the contamination of ground water than can occur. For awhile we were producing and even selling MTBE. That portion of our plant was shut down and dismantled when the studies of the harmful effects of MTBE came out.

I seem to have offended you and I am sorry if you feel offended. My purpose was to inform and possibly warn you and others about the components in gasoline that are dangerous.

The Acetone that you were adding and the Propane, Butanes and Pentanes in the gasoline are components that can flash at room temperatures and will float in the air, when given the chance.

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by rgathright

We jump on each other all the time online. Just the name of the game in these communities.

...it's what we call "Redneck Peer Reviewing" where we beat the 'horse' thesis until it either: (a) gets group consensus agreement, or (2) gets group consensus dis-agreement.

[Christ]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

...it's what we call "Greenneck Peer Reviewing" where we beat the 'horse' thesis until it either: (a) gets group consensus agreement, or (2) gets group consensus dis-agreement.

Sir!

[dwtaylorpdx]

I don't even know for sure , but If I recall the MSDS does not have to show a chemical if its a proprietary compound and there are already sufficient warnings covering it by the base mixture. So would a MSDS give the whole story? Being the conspiracy fan that I am,,, Hmm..


Dave

[Christ]

Originally Posted by dwtaylorpdx

I don't even know for sure , but If I recall the MSDS does not have to show a chemical if its a proprietary compound and there are already sufficient warnings covering it by the base mixture. So would a MSDS give the whole story? Being the conspiracy fan that I am,,, Hmm..


Dave

Dave -
I believe that the MSDS has to list all base chemicals, and any reactionary compounds that would be present. I don't think it matters if something is proprietary, just the same as ingredient listing on food products.

What doesn't have to be listed is the actual chemical makeup of the product in question.

[undeRGRound]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

It won't be valid data, but have fun with it anyway.

Mr. MMPG, can you direct me to a post or link that tells what valid data would be? I have not had time to look around much yet, TIA!

[Daox]

This is a good thread to read through for that:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ery-11445.html

[undeRGRound]

Originally Posted by Daox

This is a good thread to read through for that:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ery-11445.html

Thank You, DAOX!