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Old 07-28-2019, 11:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If the dc to dc converter and inverter is super efficient (it's possible) and the car gets driven like 12 mph yeah it might hit 10 miles per kwh.
I hear people who use their leaf as its design intended can hit 6 to 7 miles per kwh, which is using it at low speeds in the city. If the leaf had a super efficient drive system and eliminate most of the stand by losses, which is about 700 watts on a leaf like mine, might hit 10 miles per kwh.
But if you drive on the highway and use A/C you won't see anything near 10 miles per kwh, more like 5 miles per kwh.

Don't spend 30,000 on a leaf, get a used one a few years old for around 10,000.

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Old 07-29-2019, 11:50 AM   #22 (permalink)
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That sounds sustainable.
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If the leaf had a super efficient drive system and eliminate most of the stand by losses, which is about 700 watts on a leaf like mine, might hit 10 miles per kwh.
That seems...wow, much higher than I expected. Is that with things like headlights and radio on?
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Normal accessories, no heat or A/C, trying to eco drive in the city, in warmer weather, keep it under 35mph.
All bets are off in winter.
I see people who eco drive them in the city hit 6 to 7 miles per kwh. Knock most of that 700w load off the top and you get more miles per kwh.
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Let us know if and how you manage to convert one gallon of petrol in to that amount of electricity...then I'll be impressed!
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A parlor trick that can possibly be accomplished under a very specific set of conditions.
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Heck, get 30-40% of said 410 miles (peak engine efficiency) and I will be just as impressed.
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:23 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Heck, get 30-40% of said 410 miles (peak engine efficiency) and I will be just as impressed.
It's an electric vehicle.
To compare it to my leaf which achieved the equivalent of about 170 mpg over a 1,210 mile average for the month of July is pretty good.
People who drive a leaf in the city and keep it under 35mph can hit about 200 mpg.
Even my primitive leaf with its at best 2008 technology is well over 1/3 of the way to 410mpg.
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It's an electric vehicle.
To compare it to my leaf which achieved the equivalent of about 170 mpg over a 1,210 mile average for the month of July is pretty good.
People who drive a leaf in the city and keep it under 35mph can hit about 200 mpg.
Even my primitive leaf with its at best 2008 technology is well over 1/3 of the way to 410mpg.
The best I could do with my i3 on a <40 mph 10 mile round trip to the store was 205.5 MPGe, or 6 mi/kWh.

Considering it is in the top 3 rated for city efficiency with the Ioniq pulling off some sort of magic and the significantly lighter iQ EV being the only ones ahead of it, I am skeptical real world claims will come in much over 200 for the car.

Even at 25 mph, the best I can get is scarcely over 9 mi/kWh or 300 MPGe.

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