My next car is... no car??

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

They do neither. Properly cared for and kept within parameters they do make design life which is 10-15 years. Don't change oil and run water saturated gas then see how long a modern gasser lasts.

It will be interesting to see the crossover when EVs begin to remain on the road longer than their ICE counterparts.

With 10 year warranties on batteries, I expect most modern EVs (from circa 2017+) will have useful range left at 15 years old.

The first Leaf, VW, and lesser known EVs had rapidly degrading batteries, but modern EVs appear to have much more robust conditioning and chemistry.

We'll know around 2032.

[Cd]

I live in Austin, Texas.
Roads here are designed to FORCE you to drive.
You cannot walk more than a mile without having to cross a busy intersection.
NO ! More like 1/4 mile.

I have extreme anxiety / panic, as well as fear of driving.
So that makes it easy to live without driving.

You just live in a 300 yard area and never are able to escape.

This is a video on Houston urban planning.
Austin is the same - if not worse because of the huge mass of people moving here.
https://youtu.be/uxykI30fS54

3:43 in the video is the part where he shows how crazy it was for him to walk 800 meters to a store.

[freebeard]

I have extreme anxiety / panic, as well as fear of driving.

Moreso than anyone else? Since the 1950s we all expected to die in car crashes, most of us are still here (mostly).

I saw a Norway rat dodging cars on Main Street a few moments ago; and, being an ararchist jay-walker myself, I found a moment of sympathy. ...as long as they stay out of my kitchen.

What are your thoughts on self driving cars?

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by Cd

I live in Austin, Texas.
Roads here are designed to FORCE you to drive.
You cannot walk more than a mile without having to cross a busy intersection.
NO ! More like 1/4 mile.

I have extreme anxiety / panic, as well as fear of driving.
So that makes it easy to live without driving.

You just live in a 300 yard area and never are able to escape.

This is a video on Houston urban planning.
Austin is the same - if not worse because of the huge mass of people moving here.
https://youtu.be/uxykI30fS54

3:43 in the video is the part where he shows how crazy it was for him to walk 800 meters to a store.

Sounds like Texas. We were there once for a visit south of Houston. We thought it would be nice to just take a walk around the neighborhood. But car after car would stop and ask if we were alright if we needed a ride. It was nice that so many strangers were so nice and helpful. But at the same time, it seemed like the idea of people walking instead of driving was completely foreign to them.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

They do neither. Properly cared for and kept within parameters they do make design life which is 10-15 years. Don't change oil and run water saturated gas then see how long a modern gasser lasts.

I don't understand your post.

Chevy Bolts caught on fire due to a deffect (or two deffects in one).

My Nissan Leaf dropped a capacity bar in the first and only year I owned it and I don't live in neither a hot area nor did I drive it like a maniac, usually never going above 25mph, nor did I ever DC fast charge it except on one trip.

So you're saying that batteries don't come with deffects and it's all about how they are cared for? What do you mean?

P.S. I don't own a garage, so does this disqualify me from having the ability to keep them "within parameters?"

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary

Chevy Bolts caught on fire due to a deffect (or two deffects in one).

Those were extremely rare conditions resulting in zero injuries. All batteries were replaced, which I consider to be more valuable than batteries that didn't have defects in the first place, because you get a fresh battery, with more capacity than the original, and an extended warranty.

There's no downside to the Bolt battery issue.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary

Chevy Bolts caught on fire due to a deffect (or two deffects in one).

Those were extremely rare conditions resulting in zero injuries. All batteries were replaced, which I consider to be more valuable than batteries that didn't have defects in the first place, because you get a fresh battery, with more capacity than the original, and an extended warranty.

There's no downside to the Bolt battery issue. People that bought in 2020 were huge winners.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Those were extremely rare conditions resulting in zero injuries. All batteries were replaced, which I consider to be more valuable than batteries that didn't have defects in the first place, because you get a fresh battery, with more capacity than the original, and an extended warranty.

There's no downside to the Bolt battery issue. People that bought in 2020 were huge winners.

Thanks! That's kind of what I was originally getting at. With an ICE you may not see a defect for years and then it suddenly pops up right after the warranty expires. But on an EV (especially with 100,000 waranties) a battery defect is either noticeable or it just isn't there.

[Cd]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Moreso than anyone else?

What are your thoughts on self driving cars?

"Moreso than anyone else ?" - Most certainly. It completely controls my life.
And it's getting worse each year.
Thoughts on self driving cars ? - A godsend - except that I can't afford one.
Taxis ? - Too expensive.
City bus - I have anxiety in crowds.
Bicycle - See post above ( No sidewalks ! You are supposed to ride in the street with traffic behind you.
NOPE !
I also have money anxiety, since 2/3 of my check goes to oay rent.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by Cd

"Moreso than anyone else ?" - Most certainly. It completely controls my life.
And it's getting worse each year.
Thoughts on self driving cars ? - A godsend - except that I can't afford one.
Taxis ? - Too expensive.
City bus - I have anxiety in crowds.
Bicycle - See post above ( No sidewalks ! You are supposed to ride in the street with traffic behind you.
NOPE !
I also have money anxiety, since 2/3 of my check goes to oay rent.

You sound like me, like an Average American.

Well, except I'm not too sure about self driving cars yet. But if it gets all the idiots away from the steering wheel I'm all for it!

I'm a commercial truck driver and I still feel anxious driving!