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Old 04-12-2019, 12:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ugh your telling me brother I decided to give them both a longer test drive. But I feel that way and yes always in manual
Interesting idea for the mustang would be to rent one for a week and maybe you could even find one in a stick!
And I meant to say "the new 4 cylinder" and basically the old v6 got less than EPA and they ended up dropping the number down on the newer more aerodynamic 2015 v6 mustang.

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Old 04-12-2019, 12:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Interesting idea for the mustang would be to rent one for a week and maybe you could even find one in a stick!
And I meant to say "the new 4 cylinder" and basically the old v6 got less than EPA and they ended up dropping the number down on the newer more aerodynamic 2015 v6 mustang.
Honda actually called me today and gave me the car to drive for a day

Mustang re did the aero for the 2018+ Stang for that actually in the one I'm looking at
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Honda actually called me today and gave me the car to drive for a day
Nice! I bet you could get a lot right now since most american cars are 25% off msrp right now and the japanese are at 10% off msrp.
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Any chance of a Civic Type R? Honda reworked the steering and suspension geometry so it has zero torque steer. The 2.0T produces greater than 300HP and it beats all of its AWD class competitors around the track. Reviews of it are rave.
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I know very little about these cars.

I'm not one to comment or care much about aesthetics, but the Type R is atrocious and offensive. The si follows that style a bit too much also, so Mustang wins aesthetically.

If it were me, I'd probably take the money I'd spend on a new car and instead get a used Corvette. They get pretty decent fuel economy for their performance. Apparently the C6 Z06 can be found around $30k, and the car will get 28 MPG on the highway.

A used Elise can be had near those prices too, if you care nothing of creature comforts...

Actually, I'd get a motorcycle for fun ($2k), and a used Prius for grocery getting.
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Old 04-12-2019, 01:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Any chance of a Civic Type R? Honda reworked the steering and suspension geometry so it has zero torque steer. The 2.0T produces greater than 300HP and it beats all of its AWD class competitors around the track. Reviews of it are rave.
Hast to be 2 door manual otherwise all day and night I would. I wouldnt even have a decision to make if they made a coupe type r I'm also looking at quazi cost of ownership for replacement parts the Corvette and **** falls out of the category
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Now that I'm getting to drive the si for the day im loving it sport mode messed up it's performance on test drive.now it's smooth

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Rented a eco-boost stang in vegas a few years ago. Someone put regular in it and it pinged like crazy.

It went pretty good but sounded like crap.

On that trip I also rented a V-6 Camaro and was extremely impressed by how it drove. Unfortunately, you feel like you are in a tank because of the gun slit windows/windshield.
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I don't believe anybody can get 40 mpg out of a v6 mustang unless they are going 55 mph. The 11-14 v6 mustangs got more like 16 around town and 28 on the highway for the auto.
What's wrong with going 55mph? The point is what a car is capable of and what trade offs the person is willing to live with. There are plenty of road trips I can take around here and comfortably set the cruise at 55 and run through a tank. I can also get on the interstate and set the cruise at 85 mph and run through a tank. Guess what, even a Prius is probably not going to get 40 mpg doing the latter but every time I'm on the interstate they pass me doing just that.
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Epa raw data on the 2019 EcoBoost Mustang has 46.8 mpg for the 10 speed auto and 44.0 mpg on the manual. That is the old style, unadjusted highway rating which is more of a low speed steady highway number but still does include some variation in speed and the acceleration up to speed.

PS a 2019 Civic R is 40.2 mpg in the same test so the Mustang is 10-15% better.

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What's wrong with going 55mph? The point is what a car is capable of and what trade offs the person is willing to live with. There are plenty of road trips I can take around here and comfortably set the cruise at 55 and run through a tank. I can also get on the interstate and set the cruise at 85 mph and run through a tank. Guess what, even a Prius is probably not going to get 40 mpg doing the latter but every time I'm on the interstate they pass me doing just that.
I wonder if anyone's done a study on actual highway speeds over the last fifteen years? Just in that time, I feel like the average speed has crept upward, to the point where on this last road trip to NY I felt like I was poking along going 70-72 mph with traffic still flying past me, where in 2004 when I drove across the country for the first time I could comfortably go 65 mph and not feel like I was holding up trucks and whatnot.

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