Newbie from north Europe (Finland)

[maanma]

Hello to all modders with fuel economy in mind

I have to say I have not been a really ecomodder, but have been energy saver about 20 years.

I have a small call with very good consumption values for inside city drives. It is a Peugeot 107 (= Citroen C1 almost Toyota Aygo) which run about 181 mpg / per passenger seat.

For longer travels we have Renault Grand Espace 3 (built by Matra formula car manufacturer) space ship which run 185 mpg / passenger seat. And we are about to begin a new journey about 3700 miles with that in 9 weeks.

My cars run mainly 95 E10 because there has not been standard 95 available almost ten years. So real consumption is about 10% less compared to unleaded 95.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by maanma

Renault Grand Espace 3 (built by Matra formula car manufacturer) space ship which run 185 mpg / passenger seat

What engine does it have?

My cars run mainly 95 E10 because there has not been standard 95 available almost ten years. So real consumption is about 10% less compared to unleaded 95.

At least in theory, the mileage decrease for E10 would be around 4.75%.

[maanma]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

What engine does it have?

My engine in Espace is petrol/gasoline 2.0L 16V F4R 700 without turbochargers.

Most powerful engine was F1 concept car twinturbo V10 with 780 hp engine. Top gear has tested the concept - see for it because I can not link it here.

In this F1 model one can see many ecomodding fixes. In my opinion the hardest to ecomodding is air hitting low rear axle.

[freebeard]

For the lurkers: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=F1+Espace&ia=web


blog.autosphere.fr/media/sport-auto/un-v10-dans-un-monospace-le-renault-espace-f1-1994/10123/

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by maanma

My engine in Espace is petrol/gasoline 2.0L 16V F4R 700 without turbochargers.

Presumably the same engine of the only Espace I have ever seen in my hometown 25 years ago.

[maanma]

Cars having this petrol/gasoline engine were produced years 1999-2002 for Espace 3 phase (lift) 2.

Sure Renault F motor is used in other models too. In Espace 4 it is turbocharged. 16V (valves) is model indicator.

It replaced F3R which were used in Espace 3 phase 1 models. This is 8 valve version.

V6 engines were provided Nissan.

Edit: corrected F3R from 12V -> 8V

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by maanma

This is 12 valve version.

I have only seen 8-valve and 16-valve versions.