Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Fossil Fuel Free
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-04-2011, 08:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
billhac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: phoenix
Posts: 42

nEon - '96 dodge neon
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
newbie starting ev #2

hello all, as you can tell from the title im new to this site, I have been posting at DIY for a while, but I like the diversity of this site better so I thought I would start a thread here about my second EV conversion. first I have built and drive a 96 dodge neon EV, and I love driving it everywhere, but so does my son. I would say I have a bit of a dilima, because now that he has a license, he is allways gone in it. So, i thought it whould be a great time to build #2, i would like to do a ranger, but any small truck will do, and I have allready been gathering parts. at this time I have started on anothe one of pauls controllers, because the one on my neon has worked so well that a second one is a must. I have also been tinkering with Igbts, not faring to well with them though. I will build my own charger, and today i got the motor that I want to use in the truck. It is a GE 48v motor from a hyster forklift. it is about 8" x 13" or so the pics tell it better. so as I go I will post progress here, and am open to any suggestions.
thanks for reading and looking at the pics, first one is my nEon. the rest are the motor that i plan to use.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0001.JPG
Views:	37
Size:	96.9 KB
ID:	7763   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0002.JPG
Views:	30
Size:	90.7 KB
ID:	7764   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0006.JPG
Views:	24
Size:	107.6 KB
ID:	7765   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0007.JPG
Views:	30
Size:	113.6 KB
ID:	7766  
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to billhac For This Useful Post:
MPaulHolmes (02-04-2011), Ryland (02-05-2011)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 02-04-2011, 08:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
billhac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: phoenix
Posts: 42

nEon - '96 dodge neon
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
newbie starting ev #2

sorry the pic of my neon id not come through the first time so here it is.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0001.JPG
Views:	29
Size:	84.2 KB
ID:	7767   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0002.JPG
Views:	27
Size:	92.6 KB
ID:	7768   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0003.JPG
Views:	24
Size:	79.9 KB
ID:	7769  
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 09:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
jackbauer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 734
Thanks: 26
Thanked 304 Times in 171 Posts
I followed some of your progress on diy. I thought your aircon solution was excellent. What problems have you had with the igbts? I would also say that an 8" motor is a bit on the small size for a truck. Just my thoughts.
__________________
Now, Cole, when you shift the gear and that little needle on the ammeter goes into the red and reads 2000 Amps, that's bad.
www.evbmw.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 11:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
billhac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: phoenix
Posts: 42

nEon - '96 dodge neon
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
well I wasnent sure, but I thought it was very heavy so ill give it a try, besides it was the right price, free is always the right price. the ac is still going strong, allthought it hasent been getting used latly. I think the problem with the IGBTs is operator error, iv been diong some reading and, maybe it gate memory, but it seems like the gate keeps sticking turning the igbt on all the time, may be its just the circuit im using, its 324 based with current limit and uses a 4421 igbt driver to drive the gates, iv paralelled two 500 amp mosfets and it has happend twice. while im talking to you jack, in an earlier post about IGBTs you said you were using something like mg400qus41 and that you could use the diode in it as a freewheel diode, i would like to know how to do that, I put seperate diodes on mine for freewheel diodes, ill look for that post and read it again.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 11:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
jackbauer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 734
Thanks: 26
Thanked 304 Times in 171 Posts
The parts i'm using most these days are powerex cm400du-12f. They have 2 igbts in the one package. For a controller we use the low side and tie the gate and emitter of the high side together so its always off. that way the body diode acts as the freewheel with the added advantage of very low inductance between diode and switch. Actuallt in the car i'm using two rather old fuji 800amp 1200v single devices. One as switch and one as diode. Driven by a standard revolt control board.

that said its not ideal and we do have an igbt driver board just coming available as far as i know.
__________________
Now, Cole, when you shift the gear and that little needle on the ammeter goes into the red and reads 2000 Amps, that's bad.
www.evbmw.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 01:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
billhac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: phoenix
Posts: 42

nEon - '96 dodge neon
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
yes, and I will get a couple when mr bigh is ready. Iv been looking for those dang vla500-01s and no luck excpt richardson.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 01:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
billhac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: phoenix
Posts: 42

nEon - '96 dodge neon
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
as far as the IGBTs hummmm...... I will have to try that, but right now I want to get started on a controller that I know works.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 02:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
billhac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: phoenix
Posts: 42

nEon - '96 dodge neon
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
I really appreciate your in put jack thank you, I really like playing with the IGBTs but man i must be doing something wrong.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 04:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
billhac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: phoenix
Posts: 42

nEon - '96 dodge neon
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
revolt controller cover

today I wanted to show everyone the cover for my revolt controller, its not quit finished yet but you get the idea. I did it in aluminum to maybe get more heat sink ability when its bolted to the base plate.
thanks for looking
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	controller cover 1.JPG
Views:	23
Size:	102.6 KB
ID:	7783   Click image for larger version

Name:	controller cover 2.JPG
Views:	25
Size:	85.3 KB
ID:	7784   Click image for larger version

Name:	controller cover 3.JPG
Views:	32
Size:	93.7 KB
ID:	7785   Click image for larger version

Name:	controller cover 4.JPG
Views:	28
Size:	108.6 KB
ID:	7786  
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to billhac For This Useful Post:
MPaulHolmes (02-08-2011)
Old 02-08-2011, 03:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
PaulH
 
MPaulHolmes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maricopa, AZ (sort of. Actually outside of town)
Posts: 3,832

Michael's Electric Beetle - '71 Volkswagen Superbeetle 500000
Thanks: 1,368
Thanked 1,202 Times in 765 Posts
Wow! Such precision cutting on it. What did you use?

__________________
kits and boards
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com