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Old 10-21-2010, 01:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Nissan Leaf... the well thought out Volt killer



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Hardly a Volt-killer. Aside from the fact that there's enough of a market out there for both, the Volt would appeal to people who want to drive more than 100 miles or so.

Now if Nissan really wanted to make a Volt-killer, they'd cut the size of the Leaf's battery in half, and add a small APU-type generator.
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If you're a person who regularly drives over 100mi, the Volt is still the wrong car. The charge sustaining MPG is pretty unimpressive, so a Prius would be a better choice.

I doubt people with $41k to spend on a car are single-car families anyway, so most of them could get away with a Leaf.
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Old 10-21-2010, 02:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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First accessory you will see for the Leaf is a tow behind APU. Then you can hook it up when you need it, if you want to own only one car.

Beats dragging one around when you don't need it.

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Hardly a Volt-killer. Aside from the fact that there's enough of a market out there for both, the Volt would appeal to people who want to drive more than 100 miles or so.

Now if Nissan really wanted to make a Volt-killer, they'd cut the size of the Leaf's battery in half, and add a small APU-type generator.
Its yet another Pig-in-a-poke... Seems the Chevy Volt is designed for one purpose and one purpose only... So that GM can point to it complete and utter failure and say:

"look... we built it but Americans don't want EVs"

Such a shame... they could have updated the EV1 and been the market leader
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I think the Coda electric car is going to do much better in the real world, leaf has a 65-100 mile real world range and the Coda has a 85-120 mile real world range, like hybrids it has a better city or rush our traffic range and the lower range is high speed highway driving.
I'm a little disappointed that there isn't much news about the WheeGo Whip Life as well.

I only drive over 100 miles per day a few times a year and it's often with other people and we normally take mine because it gets the best mileage... part of why I own the gas car I do, I'd like to own a higher speed electric car but as it is my electric car that tops out at 40mph works for most vehicle needs I have.
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I don't think GM is all that far off with the Volt theory, i.e. that range anxiety is keeping hoards of potential "EV" customers out of pure EVs; and also that the typical customer is not going to fool around with tow-behind APUs and whatnot, so the solution has to be plug-n-play even if that means there is no choice but to add stuff that dilutes the pure EV functionality.
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I'm surprised they didn't use the airconditioner on reverse for heating, seems like an obvious way to reduce power consumption.

Now I just need to win the lottery and wait for it to go on sale in New Zealand.
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