11-03-2016, 12:04 PM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
Batman Junior
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
|
Nissan Note series hybrid: Leaf drivetrain + small battery + 1.2L generator
Nissan is selling a true series hybrid in Japan that they're calling "E-Power", and they're basically describing as a gateway drug to 100% EV adoption.
It's nearly as efficient as a Prius on the notoriously lenient Japese fuel economy test cycle (which doesn't have much if any prolonged high speed driving).
It's a parts bin car, developed to be relatively inexpensive:
- powered by a modified 1.2L 3-cylinder engine from the Micra
- electric drivetrain components from the Leaf
- small 1.5 kWh battery (under the front seats)
The engine never powers the wheels directly:
Fuel economy on the JC-08 cycle:
- 37.2 km/L (87 mpg US, 2.69 L/100km); 34.0 km/L (80 mpg US, 2.94 L/100km); and 34.0 km/L
For comparison, the 2016 prius is rated at 94 mpg US on the JC-08,
vs their 80-87 mpg.
A couple of vids (turn on subtitles / autotranslate if you dare):
The second one is just a P.O.V. clip. It shows how often the gas engine comes on (a lot). Some reports are mistakenly saying the engine only runs at its 2500 RPM BSFC sweet spot, but you can clearly hear/see that it revs up much higher when the driver floors the gas a few times.
Keep an eye on the engine/battery graphic on the right side of the instrument cluster:
Nissan's press release:
https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/r...lang=en-US&rss
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
11-03-2016, 01:42 PM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,908
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 2,952 Times in 1,845 Posts
|
Interesting, indeed - especially about the higher engine RPM under demanding situations. The intake manifold looks like a 2 cylinder - the third one must be tucked in below the outer two.
|
|
|
11-03-2016, 02:03 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
Batman Junior
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
|
I thought the same thing - about it looking like a twin.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-03-2016, 02:12 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
home of the odd vehicles
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 3,891
Thanks: 506
Thanked 867 Times in 654 Posts
|
1.3 liters 3 banger.
The only solice is if...
1. It gets sold here
2. Its a LOT cheaper than a Prius C
3. Its far easier to convert to EV than a Prii
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to rmay635703 For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-03-2016, 02:55 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
Batman Junior
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
|
The Note hybrid is priced at :
Quote:
Pricing for the entry-level S-trim starts at ¥1,772,280 (US$16,900)
|
Quick search:
Quote:
The Aqua (Prius C) was launched in Japan in December 2011 at a price of ¥1.69 million (US$21,700),
|
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius_C
Interesting!
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-03-2016, 02:56 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
Batman Junior
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
|
I predict the Note hybrid gets nowhere near the Prii highway fuel economy ratings though.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
|
|
03-09-2017, 12:22 PM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
Batman Junior
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
|
e-power Juke version
Seems like Nissan is expanding their e-power line-up...
Quote:
It will unveil a Juke e-Power concept at the 2017 Tokyo Motor Show this fall, previewing a possible production version, according to Car and Driver.
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
|
|
05-15-2017, 11:27 AM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
Batman Junior
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
|
Note e-Power May be coming to the States
Interesting: Nissan's weird little Note hybrid is outselling the Prius in Japan.
That's got the company considering expanding sales to other markets:
Nissan Considers Bringing Its Unusual e-Power Technology to America
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
|
|
05-15-2017, 02:23 PM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
home of the odd vehicles
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 3,891
Thanks: 506
Thanked 867 Times in 654 Posts
|
Per the Japanese cycle it's less efficient than a Prius , less expensive but with more acceleration.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to rmay635703 For This Useful Post:
|
|
05-15-2017, 03:03 PM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
Batman Junior
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
|
rmay, do you have any numbers handy?
Old Tele man - my first thought when I saw this car was that it's going to fire up the some modders who will want to expand the battery capacity and add a plug. Similar to the way some 2nd gen Priuses were modded, except this will arguably be a better as an EV than that car was.
|
|
|
|