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Old 03-19-2020, 10:49 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Canada's oil patch (Alberta primarily) is currently experiencing unprecedented distress - Canadian oil prices set record lows yesterday at $8/barrel, dramatically below break-even costs:

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Western Canadian Select (WCS) was changing hands at one point as low as $7.63 US per barrel, down $4.60 from Tuesday's level. The U.S. benchmark known as West Texas Intermediate (WTI) also fell to below $22 a barrel, a level it has not hit since 2003.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/sto...sday-1.5501335

Companies here are going to go bust. "High cost" producers everywhere are in big trouble. This combination of events is the stuff of the Saudis' & Russians' wildest dreams.


This is going to make life hard for a lot of Albertans.

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Old 03-19-2020, 12:24 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yes, bad timing on oversupplying oil. Perhaps cheap oil will help us quickly recover our economies after the crisis abates (with exception of local oil industry).

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redpoint and oilpan, you guys have 500 gallon fuel tanks sitting around???

I didn't know that was a thing.
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redpoint and oilpan, you guys have 500 gallon fuel tanks sitting around???

I didn't know that was a thing.
No, I have a ~300 gallon and a ~200 gallon fuel tank. Just checked today and I've got about 200 gallons left. Trying to figure out what to put it into so I can order 500 gallons. Most of the farm equipment has been sitting too long and probably needs attention before dumping fuel into it.
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We used 500-gallon fuel blivets in the Army:

Just $1,000! https://www.arcticwirerope.com/awr-p...el-blivetdrum/

That is perfect if you expect gas prices to increase more than $2 a gallon!
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I got my 500 gallon propane tanks ftom the tractor auction for $100 to $150.
The first one I got had a bad valve tree, a new one was around $200. So I got another tank with a good valve for less than the cost of a new valve and it still has propane in it.
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Like this, but 2 differently sized containers and a more improvised setup.



Set this up back when I had a source for $1/gallon fuel.
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Not the same effect. I don't like investing in commodities for the same reason that I don't like investing in the stock market; it's a zero sum game. For me to profit, it had to come at the expense of someone else.

My preferred investment would probably be real estate.
Real Estate is also a zero sum game unless you are building a new building.
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I am rent out a $30,000 house for $650 a month. Been renting it out for almost 3 years.
How is that a 0 sum game?
For me it isnt.

If I had a 130,000 house I could rent it out for maybe $800.
Slum load is where it's at.
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Real Estate is also a zero sum game unless you are building a new building.
Yes, I suppose I was thinking that but didn't make that explicit. Property development is a developing interest of mine.

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