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Tygen1 · 02-27-2010, 11:12 PM

Well, my calculations are predicting a 25% difference between EOC and and Non EOC in your case. That would mean around 38 if we compare it to a 51 mpg tank and 42.5 if we compare it to your 57 mpg tank. There's sooo many variables though, you just can't use math to predict this, or at least I can't

My guess, 42.5!

Daox · 03-02-2010, 08:12 AM

Well, I had a bit of a nasty beginning to my commute. I scraped the windows and took off. However, after about a block or so of driving I couldn't see out my windshield anymore. So, I had to pull into a parking lot and wait for some heat to defrost. I got back on my way to work after a minute or two and did find a semi going the speed limit to follow. The result was 40.8 mpg on the SG.

Piwoslaw · 03-02-2010, 09:28 AM

So how far are you into the tank?

RobertSmalls · 03-02-2010, 09:06 PM

Was your frost on the inside or the outside of the glass?

Inside, I recommend parking the car in a garage with the windows down for a few days to dry it out. Outside, I recommend fresh wiper blades and Prestone Windshield DeIcer, with a freezing point of -34°F. It's potent stuff.

I had a pervasive issue with frost on the inside of the Insight this winter, which killed my fuel economy on more than a few commutes.

Daox · 03-02-2010, 09:34 PM

I'm at about 3/4 tank right now. Plenty to go. The drive home showed 43.5 if I recall correctly.

The ice was on the outside of the glass I think. I didn't try scraping it off after I got going. I scraped it fairly well before starting up, but it just fogged right back up. It was quite odd.

Daox · 03-03-2010, 07:21 AM

44.8 on the drive in today.

Another side note, coolant temps are much higher now. I can use the heater a ton more which is kind of nice. I haven't had the radiator fan turn on yet, but its just a matter of time until theres a warm day.

Piwoslaw · 03-03-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Daox

Another side note, coolant temps are much higher now. I can use the heater a ton more which is kind of nice. I haven't had the radiator fan turn on yet, but its just a matter of time until theres a warm day.

That shows just how much energy is being wasted in a normal car, with a normal driver.
I once read that the 3L version of the VW Lupo was so efficient that engine waste heat wasn't enough to keep the passengers warm, requiring an extra electric heating system.
I'd think this is also the case in certain hybrids.

Mrhiguy · 03-04-2010, 02:48 AM

Just completed a semi long trip in my stock 96 paseo. Went aproximately 55-60 and used half a tank. I averaged 46mpg.

Daox · 03-04-2010, 07:17 AM

42.5 on the way home yesterday. Not too bad considering there was an accident and traffic was backed up fairly well.

gone-ot · 03-04-2010, 08:30 AM

...I find variations in daily "traffic" flow have a HUGE effect on MPG goint to/from work, ie: at 0600 traffic is very light and widely spread apart, but at 1730 the traffic is bunched and "rubber-banding" with every little distraction (police car, car on shoulder, merging traffic, exiting traffic, idjiots "weaving" from lane-to-lane, etc.)