Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-24-2020, 06:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 8,300
Thanks: 0
Thanked 904 Times in 800 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
The base model is lighter, has fewer gadgets, wind-up front windows, no AC (in Canada).
Reminded me of the days when most Argentinian subcompact cars usually had manual windows when fitted with AC, even though power windows were more sought after on cars without AC.

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 06-24-2020, 08:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,706

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 66.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,439
Thanked 6,259 Times in 3,237 Posts
^ That makes sense, actually.



The Canadian base model (no AC) is even slightly more strange and/or logical: it has power REAR windows, but hand-crank front windows.
__________________
Latest mods: 3-cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage. EcoMods now in progress...
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2020, 03:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 8,300
Thanks: 0
Thanked 904 Times in 800 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
The Canadian base model (no AC) is even slightly more strange and/or logical: it has power REAR windows, but hand-crank front windows.
The opposite of what I usually see in Brazilian cars nowadays.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2020, 04:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
Thalmaturge
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: The edge of nowhere
Posts: 924

Go Pod - '00 Honda Insight AC

The Tinyvan - '07 Honda Fit Sport

Spicy Italian - '13 Fiat 500 Abarth
Thanks: 466
Thanked 497 Times in 328 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
^ That makes sense, actually.



The Canadian base model (no AC) is even slightly more strange and/or logical: it has power REAR windows, but hand-crank front windows.
Now that I think about it, it's probably because the power windows have a lockout for the driver. I bet it's a child safety regulation.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2020, 07:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,706

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 66.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,439
Thanked 6,259 Times in 3,237 Posts
Not a regulation, but that's a good reason I hadn't considered!
__________________
Latest mods: 3-cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage. EcoMods now in progress...
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2020, 08:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
Rat Racer
 
Fat Charlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Route 16
Posts: 4,018

Al the Third, year four - '13 Honda Fit Base
Team Honda
90 day: 42.9 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,702
Thanked 1,826 Times in 1,184 Posts
If you want all the windows open, you can. That's reason enough.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by sheepdog44 View Post
Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Fat Charlie For This Useful Post:
jakobnev (06-26-2020)
Old 06-26-2020, 12:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
mpg_numbers_guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Michigan/Virginia
Posts: 1,281

Insight - '06 Honda Insight MT
Team Honda
Gen-1 Insights
90 day: 88.27 mpg (US)
Thanks: 302
Thanked 429 Times in 329 Posts
I have been out of the loop for a while! Saw this thread and I was like, whaaat? MetroMPG's starting to hoard Mirages? before I realized that you had sold the silver one.
__________________
2006 New Formula Red Honda Insight MT, 272k: (Build thread)
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2020, 01:09 PM   #18 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,706

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 66.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,439
Thanked 6,259 Times in 3,237 Posts
It's just a matter of time, I'm afraid.
__________________
Latest mods: 3-cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage. EcoMods now in progress...
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2020, 08:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
Rat Racer
 
Fat Charlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Route 16
Posts: 4,018

Al the Third, year four - '13 Honda Fit Base
Team Honda
90 day: 42.9 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,702
Thanked 1,826 Times in 1,184 Posts
At least you're in a self-help group for it.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by sheepdog44 View Post
Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Fat Charlie For This Useful Post:
Daschicken (08-14-2020)
Old 06-27-2020, 01:38 AM   #20 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 8,300
Thanks: 0
Thanked 904 Times in 800 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by samwichse View Post
Now that I think about it, it's probably because the power windows have a lockout for the driver. I bet it's a child safety regulation.
Had it been for childproofing, I guess hand-crank windows would have been explicitly banned. On a sidenote, when some cars which used to feature power windows on the 4 doors started to feature it only on the front doors, this became a matter of concern for parents who resorted to it as a child safety measure.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com