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Old 06-24-2020, 07:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The base model is lighter, has fewer gadgets, wind-up front windows, no AC (in Canada).
Reminded me of the days when most Argentinian subcompact cars usually had manual windows when fitted with AC, even though power windows were more sought after on cars without AC.

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Old 06-24-2020, 09:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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^ That makes sense, actually.



The Canadian base model (no AC) is even slightly more strange and/or logical: it has power REAR windows, but hand-crank front windows.
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Old 06-25-2020, 04:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The Canadian base model (no AC) is even slightly more strange and/or logical: it has power REAR windows, but hand-crank front windows.
The opposite of what I usually see in Brazilian cars nowadays.
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Old 06-25-2020, 05:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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^ That makes sense, actually.



The Canadian base model (no AC) is even slightly more strange and/or logical: it has power REAR windows, but hand-crank front windows.
Now that I think about it, it's probably because the power windows have a lockout for the driver. I bet it's a child safety regulation.
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Old 06-25-2020, 08:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Not a regulation, but that's a good reason I hadn't considered!
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I have been out of the loop for a while! Saw this thread and I was like, whaaat? MetroMPG's starting to hoard Mirages? before I realized that you had sold the silver one.
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Old 06-27-2020, 02:38 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Now that I think about it, it's probably because the power windows have a lockout for the driver. I bet it's a child safety regulation.
Had it been for childproofing, I guess hand-crank windows would have been explicitly banned. On a sidenote, when some cars which used to feature power windows on the 4 doors started to feature it only on the front doors, this became a matter of concern for parents who resorted to it as a child safety measure.

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