Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Off-Topic Tech
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-26-2019, 01:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 455

Jeep - '97 Jeep Cherokee Sport
90 day: 19.36 mpg (US)

Blueberry - '07 Toyota Camry SE
Thanks: 180
Thanked 101 Times in 77 Posts
Overheating Subaru Outback

So my wife's 2001 Subaru Outback 2.5 H4 has been overheating lately. The onset of the problem was on a recent trip. I got a P0420 (I think this is unrelated) and the car started overheating about two hours later. I since cleared the code and it hasn't come back. After the trip I discovered that the overflow tank had a lot of fluid over the full line. I replaced the thermostat, radiator, and radiator cap but the problem persists. The coolant was milky, which is indicative of a head gasket problem, although the current head gasket is only about 20k miles old. Any suggestions on next steps with this car? Will fixing the head gasket stop the overheating, or is the head gasket leaky because of getting too hot?

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 08-26-2019, 03:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Stubby79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 1,747

Firefly EV - '98 Pontiac Firefly EV
90 day: 107.65 mpg (US)

Little Boy Blue - '05 Toyota Echo
90 day: 33.35 mpg (US)

BlueZ - '19 Nissan 370Z Sport
90 day: 17.19 mpg (US)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 577 Times in 426 Posts
Confirm that it's the head gasket (there's a couple of different methods) and replace it if it is...
And check that your water pump is flowing properly...I've heard of plastic impellers disintegrating. If it isn't pumping worth a dang, it's just going to overheat again and kill your head gasket.
Running lean can cause overheating as well, which might mean it's related to your P0420 code, and all your other efforts might not fix the underlying problem.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 01:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,806

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 43.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,326
Thanked 4,477 Times in 3,442 Posts
Bummer if it's the head gasket at those few miles, but it sounds like water is mixing with oil. Subie head gaskets normally last 100k, right?

I don't know why Subaru and owners are ok with this fundamental flaw that has existed since the 90s.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 03:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
nemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: US
Posts: 1,016

Chief - '06 Pontiac Grand Prix
90 day: 26.7 mpg (US)

SF1 - '12 Ford Fiesta S
90 day: 30.95 mpg (US)
Thanks: 195
Thanked 247 Times in 190 Posts
If you go in to replace the head gasket again be sure to inspect the head carefully. Sometimes aluminum heads will corroded causing a pathway which a new gasket may fix temporarily.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 04:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 455

Jeep - '97 Jeep Cherokee Sport
90 day: 19.36 mpg (US)

Blueberry - '07 Toyota Camry SE
Thanks: 180
Thanked 101 Times in 77 Posts
Part of the problem may be that I installed the thermostat on backwards. The thermostat is normally mounted upside down, which I think is a pretty bad design as it allows for air bubbles to get trapped there. I'll see if this ends up fixing the problem.

I think the head gasket should last longer than 100k miles in most cases. Very annoying that this is a common problem in subarus. I no longer think it is the problem though, but we will see.

I think this overheating may have helped me get better mileage though 😂
31 mpg was my last tank.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 11:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 455

Jeep - '97 Jeep Cherokee Sport
90 day: 19.36 mpg (US)

Blueberry - '07 Toyota Camry SE
Thanks: 180
Thanked 101 Times in 77 Posts
The overheating problem has been solved! All it took was a correctly installed thermostat with a jiggle pin, with a very good burping of the system.

...and hopefully I do not have to think about doing a Subaru headgasket for about another 100k miles.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com