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Old 02-19-2010, 10:43 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Kuwaiti scientists say peak oil will arrive in 2014

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LOL still paying under $3/gallon. Call me when peak oil actually happens in a million years.
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Where are you finding tanks for that price?

I have a CNG Tempo and was looking to double the range, it has a 3.5gge 3600psi tank and I wanted to install a 2nd one, they're like $2k on their own not including the rest of the system under the hood..
I'm taking it to a CNG mechanic as soon as my tax refund shows up.
In Mexico complete conversions including labor are under $800, they use the same components available here in the us from the same distributors.

The trouble here in the US is the regulation level that we seem to deem necessary.

Also CNG can be stored at lower pressures using burnt corn husks (among other things) or can be stored as a solid as that weird urine car guy that posts here once and a while suggests.

CNG has a huge potential that is basically ignored because here it is a very small market.

The most important development has been one that hasn't occured, an effective energy efficient way of making Butanol from natural gas/ methane. This would be something that would set us free from foreign oil immediately with existing cars. If the will power to allow it to be sold would be present.

Besides stinking funny Butanol is
1. clean burning
2. Compatible AS IS in over 90% of the cars on the road because it only has 10% less energy than gasoline. Real tests have shown that it will usually run very old cars acceptably as-is but with certain limitations
3. Mixed with a small amount of high energy content fuel like napathalene or a more flammable mid/heavy end from gasoline it could be 100% compatible with all cars

Sadly save a few sites mainly interested in ethanol conversion (as opposed to methanol) there is very little move to accomplish natural gas to gasoline conversion

We have massive amounts of natural gas far in excess of oil reserves of all the middle east. (we still burn it off without collecting)

NOT using the natural gas off the coast of FLorida causes massive amounts of methane release into the atmosphere as it boils off the ocean floor.

Seems to me WE COULD do much more than we are and leave behind the special interests but we need a movement to do it.

The will still doesn't exist.

And despite the greenwashing the will is still very weak on most fronts.

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Here's a SeekingAlpha editorial on Peak Oil, and the Peak Demand theory. No Economic Recovery as Era of Cheap Oil Comes to an End -- Seeking Alpha

It suggests economic recovery will be difficult once oil supplies peak. They also point out that a Chinese peasant on a scooter can extract much more value from a barrel of oil than an American in an SUV. Perhaps peak oil will hit America harder than any other nation, because we are so much more dependent on oil.

"If the answers are transition to renewables, and rebuilding our infrastructure for high efficiency, then where will the money and energy to do it all come from? And how long will it hold out?"

The free market is reactive, but we must be proactive about reducing our dependence on a depletable resource, because you can't build windmills with battery-electric trucks.
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I'm actually scared to think all SUV's and big cars will be replaced by small scooters...they pollute MUCH more and are as noisy as hell...if you want to experience that, come over to Cyprus, other than China Cyprus must be the world capital of stinkin' scooters. The problem is at lthat here these road mosquitoes don't require MOT (road worthiness&emissions tests) and most of them push out more smoke that Victorian era chimney..
Most are very old and hardly maintained with wobbly wheels and such. The only place I saw with more scooters was in Milan , IT but at least there most of them looked newish, well maintaned and mostly 4-stroke..

As for "No Economic Recovery Possible" because the oil is getting finished, I find that very hard to believe...If we look at what happened after the 2nd WW for example and what's happening now...Most European countries were in shambles back then and yes there was the Marshal plan but it was also a lot of hard work and economies reinventing themselves. West Germany went on to become one of the most developed economies, through what is known as the "Wirtschaftswunder".

Sometimes, we just need to renounce our own beliefs (that we need 3 ton SUV's to drive around in , 30 cubic feet refrigerators, big houses with all but zero insulation and many more things)
Of course i'm not referring to us ecomodders but we all need to change something in the near future.







Check out the bloke speeding past 'them SUV's, I'd like one of those for me-self
That's the kind of vehicles we need to replace our cars with, not bloody scooters..
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I'm actually scared to think all SUV's and big cars will be replaced by small scooters...they pollute MUCH more and are as noisy as hell...
But they don't have to do that. It's just that it's cheaper for the manufacturers to build them like that, if they can get away with it.

And we're still not seeing $3.50/gal gas around here. It's been bouncing around $2.95 - $3.10 for months...
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But they don't have to do that. It's just that it's cheaper for the manufacturers to build them like that, if they can get away with it.

And we're still not seeing $3.50/gal gas around here. It's been bouncing around $2.95 - $3.10 for months...
ya , you're right about that, I hope the situation will change in the future and more strict regulations will have to be met by "mosquito" manufacturers

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Here in Cyprus the price now is about 5.25 $/US gallon (1.1 EUR/liter) and of course if I we to calculate using the exchange rate from few months ago when the dollar was weaker, it would be much higher. In the Netherlands , Norway, gas is ~ 8$/US gallon

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