09-14-2010, 11:06 AM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
Basjoos Wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 870
Thanks: 174
Thanked 49 Times in 32 Posts
|
Percentage increase in MPGs for simple mods?
I recently added partial grille block to my minvan, and in a half tanks worth of driving saw the difference on the tripometer. So I did the same thing to the Max and noticed the difference on the scanguage.
While I realize a grille block will have varying results according to average speed and size of grille opening etc, it struck me that I increased the mpg possible from my van about 10% with a bit of old vinyl siding and some zip ties. Are my results just not completely tested, or is a grille block (or other smaller mods) much more effective than I am led to believe?
__________________
RIP Maxima 1997-2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesqf
I think you missed the point I was trying to make, which is that it's not rational to do either speed or fuel economy mods for economic reasons. You do it as a form of recreation, for the fun and for the challenge.
|
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
09-14-2010, 12:03 PM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Wiki Mod
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Midland MI, USA
Posts: 2,042
Thanks: 228
Thanked 304 Times in 210 Posts
|
take a look at the wiki for some real life mod data:
Car MPG Efficiency Modifications Main - EcoModder
your numbers sound a bit high, but not past the range of mod + normal driving variation.
__________________
|
|
|
09-14-2010, 05:56 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Lurker
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Mobile
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
|
What was your test speed?
|
|
|
09-17-2010, 01:12 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
Basjoos Wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 870
Thanks: 174
Thanked 49 Times in 32 Posts
|
nearly everywhere I drive has a speed limit of 40 or higher, and there is a stretch of about 5 miles to town over 50, so I'd say aero mods would make a big difference. I'd chock this discussion to more info needed for a couple weeks til I can get a tankful of miles behind me. Tends to take a while with a 20 gallon tank though.
__________________
RIP Maxima 1997-2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesqf
I think you missed the point I was trying to make, which is that it's not rational to do either speed or fuel economy mods for economic reasons. You do it as a form of recreation, for the fun and for the challenge.
|
|
|
|
10-02-2010, 05:06 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,267
Thanks: 24,392
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
|
6% tops!
The SAE credits the cooling system at about 12% of overall aerodynamic drag.
Completely eliminating the cooling system would provide a 6% mpg improvement at 55-mph,a little more at higher speed.
Accordingly,10% would be a little high,although on a case-specific basis it is possible.
|
|
|
10-03-2010, 05:25 AM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
Basjoos Wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 870
Thanks: 174
Thanked 49 Times in 32 Posts
|
I wonder what the aero drag percentage of a minivan is.... I suspect a bit lower, due to larger frontal area.
__________________
RIP Maxima 1997-2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesqf
I think you missed the point I was trying to make, which is that it's not rational to do either speed or fuel economy mods for economic reasons. You do it as a form of recreation, for the fun and for the challenge.
|
|
|
|
10-03-2010, 10:56 AM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
Wiki Writer
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 236
Thanks: 15
Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts
|
yea 10% is a bit high i think, if you look at your frontal area of your car and look at what percentage of frontal area your grill block is its probably less than 10%.
You might however be getting an advantage from higher engine bay temperatures, quicker engine heat up times.
Id still be surprised with 10% but would be great if you are getting that much improvement.
regarding the fact that its a simple mod, whenever i do another mod to my car i am continually surprised by how easy they all are (so far), makes me think i should have done this a long time ago.
|
|
|
|