Plug in hydrogen hybrid

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by UFO

I'll tell you what the logic is:

Or the other logic: If you're a politician - let's say President of the US, just for fun - you can mouth meaningless promises about a future "hydrogen economy" that'll let your supporters (most of whom are completely ignorant of science) go on believing that they can keep driving their SUVs & pickups. And of course you promise this will be delivered sometime after you're safely out of office...

[Frank Lee]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

Or the other logic: If you're a politician - let's say President of the US, just for fun - you can mouth meaningless promises about a future "hydrogen economy" that'll let your supporters (most of whom are completely ignorant of science) go on believing that they can keep driving their SUVs & pickups. And of course you promise this will be delivered sometime after you're safely out of office...

...not to mention cancelling the USCar program, where a consortium of govt and industry was developing real fuel saving tech...

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

you can mouth meaningless promises about a future "hydrogen economy" that'll let your supporters (most of whom are completely ignorant of science) go on believing that they can keep driving their SUVs & pickups. And of course you promise this will be delivered sometime after you're safely out of office...

Does any one remember about 3 years ago a certian congress member (I am not going to name names) wanted to get a comission together to research the feasability of getting hydrogen from jupiter for use in cars?
How can any one be so freaking stupid.
When I herd it I could not believe it. Good thing I had a DVR cable box. Yeah she said it.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

...the feasability of getting hydrogen from jupiter for use in cars?

Well, that's one way to get funding for the space program :-)

[dcb]

Jupiter has done a pretty good job of sweeping up high speed objects that might have otherwise flattened us.

It isn't the worst idea in the solar system, sort of like a reverse mortgage though, can we run Jupiter dry right when the sun goes supernova sort of thing

Since there isn't O2 readily available, the transporter would have to be solar powered or fusion or ??? It probably wouldn't be powered by burning hydrogen, but would take noticable energy to strip it off of jupiter and decelerate it so it "descends" toward earths orbit, with a really tricky job on the collection side of things.

Gotta think that there is far more promise in plain old solar, especially if space utensils are an option.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by dcb

Gotta think that there is far more promise in plain old solar, especially if space utensils are an option.

That's boring.

Didn't Einstein say keep it simple (but not too simple)?

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by UFO

Didn't Einstein say keep it simple (but not too simple)?

Maybe, but I believe William of Ockham said it much earlier, and rather more neatly: "entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem", or - loosely translated into English - pick the simplest explanation that explains all the known facts. (AKA Occam's Razor).

[jakobnev]

How can any one be so freaking stupid.

Yeah, everyone known that for hydrogen you go to the sun!

[Frank Lee]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Does any one remember about 3 years ago a certian congress member (I am not going to name names) wanted to get a comission together to research the feasability of getting hydrogen from jupiter for use in cars?
How can any one be so freaking stupid.
When I herd it I could not believe it. Good thing I had a DVR cable box. Yeah she said it.

Nope, don't remember that. Google doesn't remember it either, as the only hit is... your post. Please share.

[oil pan 4]

I searched too, couldn't find it. Only saw it on the news, I guess it was never put in print.