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Old 03-27-2018, 12:22 AM   #21 (permalink)
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The key to me I guess is the normalness of it. I mean honestly if you saw this interior without the Honda steering wheel I'd be hard pressed to say it wasn't an Acura. So plus one for the fantastic NORMAL interior. I've always said I won't give up my Prius until Lexus can come out with a fantastic little four door with a great interior with nice touches here and there that can get 55 mpg and this is pretty close (not as lame as the ct200). In other news did you guys see that Toyota upped the horsepower on their Dynamic force engine as well? Seems like the new prius may get a bump to 160hp in their 1.8 like the competition. So long 90hp hybrids! Everybody is winning here.

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Old 03-27-2018, 10:17 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Honda only wants to sell upscale cars and has stated the Insight will also be “upscale “ and priced as such

So unless they end up heavily discounted, gone are the days of economical Honda’s
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Old 03-27-2018, 12:54 PM   #23 (permalink)
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50 combined MPG estimate:

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EPA ratings aren't yet final, but Honda says the new Insight is projected to achieve "up to 55 mpg" on the city cycle, and a combined fuel-economy number of "50 mpg or better."
source: https://www.greencarreports.com/news...r-prius-hybrid
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Old 03-27-2018, 01:03 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Honda only wants to sell upscale cars and has stated the Insight will also be “upscale “ and priced as such

So unless they end up heavily discounted, gone are the days of economical Honda’s
Interesting point also is it slots between the civic and accord msrp and can be optioned up. 23,570 high for the accord msrp and 18,840 low for the civic sedan's msrp. 2018 prius base msrp is 23,475. I'm guessing they will market it on mpgs being segment par, but mostly on its looks and low msrp.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/honda...-years-143303/
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Old 03-27-2018, 03:38 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I wouldn't be so sure. Ford moved nearly 60,000 Fusion hybrids last year (almost as many units as the Prius); Toyota, 20,000 Camrys, and Honda, 22,000 Accords. There's definitely a market for hybrid sedans, it's just a question of whether the Insight's smaller size will put buyers off.

Cumulatively, Honda has sold 85,000 Insights across all model years. With results like that, it's hard to blame them for trying something different.
I didn't know they sold as well as they did. Still, the average Joe still thinks of Prius when you say hybrid. I honestly expected the normal-bodied hybrids to be the biggest growth market for hybrids, and while I guess they've been steady, it's still not stunning. We'll see. Maybe there's hope for the Insight.
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I'm interested to see how it stacks up against the Fusion hybrid, which is the one I'm always praising. The Fusion gets 45 MPG and has normal acceleration and handling, with a very quiet cabin.
Fords have been the hybrid to get if you didn't want the Prius, I'd say a Fusion would stack up well. Hyundai's come on strong too (of course they have. Hyundai's a juggernaut in going from strength to strength).
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this car is more like a accord to me, Insight should've stayed more original in design
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Hyundai's come on strong too (of course they have. Hyundai's a juggernaut in going from strength to strength).
I should try a few Hyundai's out before I commit to a Fusion. Might be a moot point considering how ardent my wife is being about the next car being an SUV.
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I should try a few Hyundai's out before I commit to a Fusion. Might be a moot point considering how ardent my wife is being about the next car being an SUV.
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A decent analysis mainly about why Prius sales have disappointed... some points apply to all hybrids:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...-4-reasons-why

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