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.......post tuft tests here as well ?
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By all means, the more perspective on the issues the better.
For me tufts seem less intuitive, requiring intense examination and analysis when compare to smoke which just seems to flow effortlessly.
Ignorance is bliss?
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A smoke stream would make this car look sleek, but the telltale tufts show just how much of a mess the car is to the air :
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A smoke stream would make this car look sleek, but the telltale tufts show just how much of a mess the car is to the air : [/IMG]
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That's just gotta be a cross-wind test, at least I hope so.
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I assume this shape has been in a few wind tunnels before - so it qualifies.
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One of Jaray's wind tunnel maquettes. This shape would form the basis of his car design patents.
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Up for consideration were a few million dollars’ worth of classic Benzes from the 1950s: a 1952 W194 300 SL race car, a 1954 W198 300 SL production car and a 1951 W188 300S coupe. The results were interesting. The race car weighed in with a drag coefficient of .376 (wind speed 80.77 MPH) the production 300 SL was a close second at .389 while the 300S had a drag coefficient of .670.
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* David Greenlees over at The Old Motor this week showed us an early approach to wind tunnel testing, using scales to measure the various forces on the car.
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Jaray model
This is the 'pumpkin seed' of which the Aerodynamic Streamlining Template is derived.Jaray derived his from a Cd 0.045 streamline body of revolution/airship form.Wolfgang Klemperer,who had his graduate degree in engineering in 1922 did the wind tunnel measurements for Jaray at the Zeppelin works of which they both worked.It measured Cd 0.13 in its 'best' edge configuration with wheels,on the 'ground.'
I used a Cd 0.04 body for the 'Template.'
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This is the 'pumpkin seed' of which the Aerodynamic Streamlining Template is derived.
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I admit to getting a little excited when I first found the image today. I knew right away what it was, yet have never seen a photo of the model before.
More on it in Portuguese, use Google Chrome as your browser and it will translate it for you.
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"The ideal way Jaray applied to a body close to the ground" in 1920
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