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This video?
I blame the admins.
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03-30-2022, 06:44 PM
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There's a video of an F150 hybrid and a Rivian R1T (large pack 4 motor) towing. The F150 cost about 20% more than the Rivian on DC fast chargers.
Unfortunately I can't post the link due to low post count (Thanks admins!)
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Thanks for the (almost) link. I believe 5 posts in the magic number to post links and pictures.
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03-30-2022, 07:46 PM
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If I try, the browser redirects to https://%20//youtu.be%20/XcZ_7qR_KBE, and I have to reedit it to get it to work.
How did Xist get that redirect to work? A yout.ube link would have obscured the thumbnail.
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03-30-2022, 08:16 PM
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1 post every other year...
Who cares about DCFC cost? It's trivial in the scheme of things.
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08-17-2023, 10:04 AM
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The cost comparison between charging an electric vehicle (EV) and filling up a traditional IC engine vehicle depends on various factors including prices, the efficiency of the vehicles, and the distance covered. In general, charging an EV tends to be more cost-effective than filling up a gas tank for several reasons:
1. Lower Fuel Costs: Electricity is cheaper than gasoline on a per-mile basis.
2. Stable Electricity Prices - Electricity prices tend to be more stable than gasoline prices
3. Energy Efficiency: EVs are more energy-efficient because electric motors convert a higher percentage of energy from the grid to power
4. Home Charging: Many EV owners charge their vehicles at home
Also, some regions offer incentives or rebates for purchasing EVs or installing home charging equipment, further reducing the overall cost of ownership.
However, it's important to note that the cost comparison can vary based on factors such as local electricity and gasoline prices, the specific models of the vehicles, the driving habits of the owner, and potential additional costs like home charging equipment installation.
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08-18-2023, 03:27 PM
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The cost comparison between charging an electric vehicle (EV) and filling up a traditional IC engine vehicle depends on various factors including prices, the efficiency of the vehicles, and the distance covered. In general, charging an EV tends to be more cost-effective than filling up a gas tank for several reasons:
1. Lower Fuel Costs: Electricity is cheaper than gasoline on a per-mile basis.
2. Stable Electricity Prices - Electricity prices tend to be more stable than gasoline prices
3. Energy Efficiency: EVs are more energy-efficient because electric motors convert a higher percentage of energy from the grid to power
4. Home Charging: Many EV owners charge their vehicles at home
Also, some regions offer incentives or rebates for purchasing EVs or installing home charging equipment, further reducing the overall cost of ownership.
However, it's important to note that the cost comparison can vary based on factors such as local electricity and gasoline prices, the specific models of the vehicles, the driving habits of the owner, and potential additional costs like home charging equipment installation.
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Not in Australia where they have added so much solar they're electricity market is in complete chaos. Prices range from free to paying people to use electricity at the peak of day time solar production to charging 44 cents a kwh in the evenings. I never had a gas station pay me to take gasoline then charge me $20 a gallon several hours later.
For me I pay about 9 cents a kwh, day or night. Windy or not.
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GeorgeEVexpert is either a very competent writer or a chatbot.
The edge case would be Aptera, Lightyear Zero, Xbus, that solar motor home; where all the cost is up front, and it's time waiting vs money.
The trend will be toward self-energized, non-explody EVs.
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08-23-2023, 11:06 AM
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This is old, but still relevant. So how do you see how much my local tesla supercharger costs? If I bought a Tesla I would have no way of charging at my apartment or at work. Right now I have a Hybrid that gets 52 mpg around town and gas is $3.85/gallon. So 100 miles costs $7.40. If u bought a dual motor model 3 how much would that cost 100% supercharging to go 100 miles?
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08-23-2023, 11:28 AM
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If I couldn't charge a home or work I wouldn't bother with an electric vehicle.
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08-23-2023, 01:01 PM
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This is old, but still relevant. So how do you see how much my local tesla supercharger costs? If I bought a Tesla I would have no way of charging at my apartment or at work. Right now I have a Hybrid that gets 52 mpg around town and gas is $3.85/gallon. So 100 miles costs $7.40. If u bought a dual motor model 3 how much would that cost 100% supercharging to go 100 miles?
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There is no way to check pricing at a local supercharger unless you own a Tesla. Tesla shows current pricing per station on the navigation screen in the car or in the Tesla app. Supercharger pricing varies by station and by time of day. Just like with commercial and residential time-of-use electricity pricing you will pay more at a Supercharger on peak rates than on off-peak. It seems that Supercharger rates vary from about $0.25 and $0.50 per kWh.
Tesla going 4 miles / kWh would be spending $0.063 per mile at the base rate and $0.125 per mile at the peak rate.
A hybrid that goes 52 miles on a $3.85 gallon of gas is spending $0.074 per mile
I agree with oil pan, unless you can charge at home or work driving an EV doesn't make sense. Relying on DC charging all the time is expensive and a hassle. A friend of mine bought a Tesla Model X planning to charge once a week at a supercharger. That got old really quick and when her lease was up she moved to an apartment with chargers.
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