Really ecological cars shouldn't have leather seats, wooden dash...

[Xist]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

The imitation leather sounds worse for the environment and never lasts as long as the vehicle.
What was the benefit exactly?
Oh I forgot, their bottom line.

Saving the world?

Enabling people to claim they are saving the world?

I still think that horses are the answer, but bicycles allow you to burn McDonald's instead of oats.

Burn, McDonald's, burn!

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

The imitation leather sounds worse for the environment and never lasts as long as the vehicle.
What was the benefit exactly?
Oh I forgot, their bottom line.

Exactly, but Toyota hypes the SofTex® as being eco-friendly:

"What is SofTex®?

SofTex® is a synthetic leather seat material designed for wear, easy cleaning and resisting spills. Soft to the touch, SofTex weighs about half as much as genuine leather. The way it's made generates around 85% fewer CO2 emissions and 99% fewer Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) than conventional synthetic leather. It also does not include any animal-based material."

• source: Toyota FAQS: What is SofTex®?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

Exactly, but Toyota hypes the SofTex® as being eco-friendly:

"What is SofTex®?

SofTex® is a synthetic leather seat material designed for wear, easy cleaning and resisting spills. Soft to the touch, SofTex weighs about half as much as genuine leather. The way it's made generates around 85% fewer CO2 emissions and 99% fewer Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) than conventional synthetic leather. It also does not include any animal-based material."

• source: Toyota FAQS: What is SofTex®?

Unless the resins used in that artificial leather-like material were vegetable-based, its manufacturing process is not really so much environmentally-better than real leather.

[basjoos]

Softex is made of polyurethane, which is made from isocyanate, a highly toxic chemical usually made from petroleum based raw materials.

[Xist]

Unfortunately, Greek yogurt is supposed to be bad for the environment, too. Here is an article: Whey-ing Greek yogurt’s environmental impact – Eatocracy - CNN.com Blogs

Huh. According to that article, Greek yogurt producers do not dump acid whey into the environment like my hippie sister indicated, they give it to farmers, who use it for a variety of uses.

I thought this was relevant, but it turned out to be trivial. Please pardon the interruption.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oldtamiyaphile

This is ecomodder.com not pennypincher.com seems to be a common mistake

I thought eco was a reference to economics?

Various reasons bring people to this site, and my interest is in both economics and ecology.

Fortunately, things that are cheaper usually take less energy to produce, so that satisfies both objectives. Of course, this is not always the case.

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Unless the resins used in that artificial leather-like material were vegetable-based, its manufacturing process is not really so much environmentally-better than real leather.

Also note in the fine print that Toyota compares their synthetic to other leading synthetics, and not to real leather.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Also note in the fine print that Toyota compares their synthetic to other leading synthetics, and not to real leather.

Which means its not as good as real leather.

Originally Posted by Xist

Saving the world?

Enabling people to claim they are saving the world?

Yep you nailed it.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by Xist

Greek yogurt producers do not dump acid whey into the environment like my hippie sister indicated, they give it to farmers, who use it for a variety of uses.

I could have told you that. Whey is incredibly useful and valuable.
I work maintenance at a cheese plant now. They make a lot of whey too.
Work makes me hungry.

Chances are if you eat cheese, you are eating my cheese.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Also note in the fine print that Toyota compares their synthetic to other leading synthetics, and not to real leather.

Sure, but it's still not so "environmentally-friendly" when compared to real leather.

[samwichse]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Chances are if you eat cheese, you are eating my cheese.

And I thank you sir!

Sam