05-08-2019, 01:55 PM
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Renewable tidbits
*As of April,2019,Iowa was getting 37% of it's electric power from wind.
*As of same date,Oklahoma was getting 31.9%
*South Dakota,over 25%
*Kansas,10.6%
*As of 2017,Texas was getting 18% of it's power from wind/solar.
*As of 2014,US installed wind capacity was 14.67% of total demand.
*As of same time,wind constituted 4.4% of total US electrical demand.
*In 2015,US onshore wind was the cheapest form of electric power.
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05-08-2019, 06:13 PM
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Where did those cone from?
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05-08-2019, 06:31 PM
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Where did those cone from?
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Most is from the USDOE Renewable Energy Laboratory website.The wind power $ value (1.5-cents/kWh) is from Ph.D.Michael Wysession's lecture series on The Science of Energy,2015,The Great Courses.
The 2017 Texas data is from my CoServ Electric Co-op Magazine,May 2019 issue.
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Well then forget solar.
Except when. You need extra reliable mid day power.
Or for home owners.
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Well then forget solar.
Except when. You need extra reliable mid day power.
Or for home owners.
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There are some concentrated solar power plants which can store enough heat in molten salts to provide load through the night.
And a market basket of other storage technologies already in service,or in the pipeline.
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The concentrated solar plants are a huge waste of money and they use natural gas.
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The concentrated solar plants are a huge waste of money and they use natural gas.
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Renewable energy storage is a topic of much interest.
Having a thermal phase-change 'battery',for night time power production would be a contribution to that challenge,wouldn't it? Do you object to solar energy with a 100% capacity factor?
And if externalities and hidden costs are properly accounted for in present- day fossil-fuel-fired power-plant electric rates,do the economics of solar not take on a more favorable position?
We're talking about decarbonization after all.
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A thermal solar plant that burns natural gas isn't very carbon free.
Even if it ran 24 hours it still would be way below 100% capacity factor. The solar collector would have to be about 500% over sized or more, with a huge storage tank just to make name plate around the clock and would probably still need to burn some natural gas.
Probably be better off with wind power.
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natural gas
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A thermal solar plant that burns natural gas isn't very carbon free.
Even if it ran 24 hours it still would be way below 100% capacity factor. The solar collector would have to be about 500% over sized or more, with a huge storage tank just to make name plate around the clock and would probably still need to burn some natural gas.
Probably be better off with wind power.
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I was limiting my comment to concentrated solar.The fracking/methane issue makes natural gas less appealing more and more.If the plant provides power 24-hours a day,at the plants rated capacity,on the days it can produce,that would be 100% capacity factor for those days.In the Atacama desert that might be 365-days/year.It's all about the design criteria,yes.
As part of a market basket of solutions it could play an important role.
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Fracking for natural gas has allowed it to become a cheap replacement for coal.
Don't like fracking then you must like coal.
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