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Old 01-23-2008, 08:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Umm, nice non sequitur...
It's an excellent sequitur in the ramblings of my head

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Old 01-24-2008, 12:12 AM   #12 (permalink)
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OK -- with Plug-In hybrids in Cali, how many times has the grid gone into rolling blackouts after the work rush (5-6 p.m. to 5 a.m.)? AFIK, none. Generally this happens in mid-afternoon. When do plug-in hybrids generally re-charge? I would think overnight (when demand is low).

Granted, the grid is weak in SoCal, and Nationwide -- but a steady increase in draw, over time, should allow planning/response from the California energy regulators to allow for this additional increase. I should certainly hope.

I can't speak to this past summer, but is CA still buying power from Texas? I don't recall the rolling blackouts like last summer ('06).

Baby-steps folks. We can't expect the mass-populace to buy into pure-electric, trailer-driven electrical vehicles. Granted, EVs can solve the problem, but marketing and public perception overrides the current solution. It takes a steady re-education by means of experience to introduce the "Average Joe/Jane" to these vehicles in CA and Nationwide. It's a grass-roots movement of exhibiting personal preference and a statement of personal choice. If more people do it, more of the public is able to accept it. Unfortunately, it's Sociological instead of Economical.

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Totally with you RH77.... There's the "right" thing to do - right after the "mediocre" things to get us there It is also economical too - that is, if the option isn't economical, people won't come to market. If the prius had a sticker price of $50,000 - that'd push it off the table for many...

Also, no blackouts in summer '07 either.
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Most of the blackouts were thanks to the novel trading practices of Enron.
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I believe that we (Californians) buy most of our out-of-state power from Wyoming. Wyoming, coincidentially, has the highest CO2 emissions per capita of any state. Most of the power produced in-state comes from natural gas. Not much CO2 per KwH, but we're still quite dependent on other regions for our fuel.

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