Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Off-Topic > The Lounge
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-27-2017, 04:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,240

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 30.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,233 Times in 1,723 Posts
Shooting curveballs

First of all, I would like suggestions for a better title. I came to work today with every intention of, you know, working, but I had a Jalopnik article on my screen, and then descended into madness in the only site that I know with decent comments.

I had not realized any of these existed. Someone please explain why they had, you know, performance issues:








Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	curved_barrel_model_on_display.jpg
Views:	183
Size:	22.0 KB
ID:	23036   Click image for larger version

Name:	1469.jpg
Views:	158
Size:	17.8 KB
ID:	23037   Click image for larger version

Name:	ppsh-45-curved.jpg
Views:	157
Size:	41.3 KB
ID:	23038   Click image for larger version

Name:	PPSh-Curved1.jpg
Views:	209
Size:	44.0 KB
ID:	23039  
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 11-27-2017, 04:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,806

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 43.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,326
Thanked 4,477 Times in 3,442 Posts
There is no point in curving the barrel except that it would allow someone to shoot from behind cover. You can't curve bullets.

__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2017, 05:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: na
Posts: 1,025
Thanks: 277
Thanked 218 Times in 185 Posts
I think most of the bent barrels came from WW1 trench warfare.

Disagree on not being about to shoot a curve bullet. Say instead of swinging a gun, lets just change it to shooting straight out the out the window of a car traveling 60 mph (88 ft/second). Say the bullet is going 1000 fps, In 1 second the bullet will travel 1000 ft(333.3 yards) away, and travel 88 ft in the direction the car is traveling so, you could shoot something obstructed by a building closer to you.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2017, 05:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,696
Thanks: 8,144
Thanked 8,924 Times in 7,367 Posts
Krummlauf. Call it Krummlauf.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krummlauf
Quote:
The bent barrel attachments had very short lifespans – approx. 300 rounds for the 30° version, and 160 rounds for the 45° variant–as the barrel and bullets fired were put under great stress.


It took me about three minutes to learn that. You're welcome. Steerable bullets is a different technology.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2017, 06:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,240

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 30.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,233 Times in 1,723 Posts
I read https://jalopnik.com/ten-obvious-eng...nto-1700377652, which contained:

Quote:
“Porsche was so confident he would win the contract for the Tiger tank that he began producing chassis before the contract was awarded. When his design was judged inferior to the Henschel he convinced the military to let him build tank destroyers out of the chassis he had already began producing. So it began life as a loser.

Then they built it, but forgot to add opening for machine guns, or openings for vision to the side or the rear.

[...]

Not willing to call it a day and melt the things down as scrap the tanks were “retrofitted” by providing the crew with a machine gun with bent barrel so that they could fire at nearby troops through an open hatch. This of course meant they had to open the hatch in the middle of the battle, which kind of defeats the purpose of an enclosed armored vehicle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2017, 08:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,806

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 43.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,326
Thanked 4,477 Times in 3,442 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by roosterk0031 View Post
Disagree on not being about to shoot a curve bullet. Say instead of swinging a gun, lets just change it to shooting straight out the out the window of a car traveling 60 mph (88 ft/second). Say the bullet is going 1000 fps, In 1 second the bullet will travel 1000 ft(333.3 yards) away, and travel 88 ft in the direction the car is traveling so, you could shoot something obstructed by a building closer to you.
That is not curving a bullet, as it still travels in a straight (diagonal) path from the point at which it leaves the barrel. Firing from a moving vehicle will not allow a bullet to curve around an obstruction.

Curved paths are an indication of continued acceleration by some force. A baseball curves towards the ground due to the continued acceleration of gravity towards the earth.

You would need to utilize the magnus effect, or other aerodynamic property to curve a projectile around an obstacle.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!

Last edited by redpoint5; 11-27-2017 at 08:38 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2017, 08:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,240

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 30.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,233 Times in 1,723 Posts
Just shoot it past something that warps gravity. Duh.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2017, 09:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,696
Thanks: 8,144
Thanked 8,924 Times in 7,367 Posts
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=steerable+bullet&ia=web

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com