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Old 09-02-2017, 05:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Assuming that electric bills for the low-income tenants are already subsidized, it does make sense to take this approach that seems way more financially sustainable in the long run.

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Old 09-02-2017, 06:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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My last Sergeant installs solar panels. I always appreciate people helping Veterans, just as long as everybody who needs help receives it.

I always liked how Habitat for Humanity involved the recipients.

So, the government is using the real estate to generate revenue?

What is the ROI again?
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The UK government have announced that they are to fund the installation of 800,000 solar panels to social funded homes across England and Wales, over the next 5 years. These will be installed at no cost to the tenants.
The firm providing the panels, Solarplicity, will target military veterans when it recruits staff to install the panels.

Solar power deal will lower social tenants' energy bills - BBC News
I did some work like this as a volunteer in Los Angeles a couple summers. It was for a nonprofit called grid alternatives. We put solar panels on low income families' homes free of charge. The panels were subsidized by the state of California if I recall correctly. The policy goal is not just to help low income families but to create a distributed solar array across California. Partly as a result of such policies, California has one of the highest renewable energy proportions in its energy combination in the USA.
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Instead in of wasting money on social engineering maybe they could work on improving air quality.
Out of the top 20 moat air polluted cities in the US California wins the top 5 or 6 spots.

So glad I don't live there.
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I always liked how Habitat for Humanity involved the recipients.

So, the government is using the real estate to generate revenue?
Habitat for Humanity (the ones I've talked to) have a stick up their butt about high-performance housing.The location at White City, OR was a little more receptive because they are faced with some heavy weather on the Oregon Coast.

And my reading of this situation is that the government that provides the housing, and therefore the heat, is proactively seeking lowest operating costs.

And putting veterans to work.
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Instead in of wasting money on social engineering maybe they could work on improving air quality.
But it does seem to lead to improvements in air quality, since would decrease the usage of fossil fuels for power generation and heating.
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California imports a lot of it's electrical power from out of state. They won't build a new power plant in that state.
Motor vehicles seem to be the main culprit.
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California imports a lot of it's electrical power from out of state. They won't build a new power plant in that state.
Motor vehicles seem to be the main culprit.
That might have been true when you heard it, but it's not true anymore. About 91,000 Gwh come from out of state and 198,000 Gwh from in-state generation. Leading the way in the growth of in-state generation is Natural Gas and Renewables. We are building power generation. I was physically on the roofs in Compton assisting in installing part of a statewide program of distributed solar power generation. But that is just one small program. Since 2002, the pace of solar and other renewable generation development in California has grown by leaps. Solar has been one of the biggest growth areas and is now the largest in-state renewable source. Here is a link to show you the mix: Total System Electric Generation

And here is a link of current generation plant projects: California Solar Energy Statistics & Data

Drive a plug-in out here and it is many times cleaner than in Kentucky because we are not burning much coal to generate power.
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Well I hope it works because I was in L.A. in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2009 and it was a smog hole.
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Well I hope it works because I was in L.A. in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2009 and it was a smog hole.
Me too, since I live here. Hahaha! Anyway, here is promising data. I am sure the reasons are as much or more due to the hated smog inspections and removal of old vehicles from the road as it is due to changes in the energy generation mix:





And two articles of interest:
https://news.usc.edu/97920/southern-...ratory-health/
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