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Old 04-21-2021, 03:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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some side-by-side BEV / ICE Cd comparisons

* Volvo XC40 P8 AWD Recharge = 21.4% - 32.1%
* HONDA FIT EV, = 14% lower overall drag
* FIAT 500e, = 13.37% lower overall drag than ' Lounge'
* Chevrolet SPARK EV = 9.72% lower overall drag
* Hyundai KONA EV = 9.37% lower overall drag
* SMART ED = 7.89% lower overall drag
* FIAT 500e = 6.3% lower overall drag than ' Pop'
* Volkswagen e-Golf = 5.92% lower overall drag
* KIA SOUL EV = zero difference reported
* Ford FOCUS EV = zero difference reported
* KIA Niro EV = 3.44% higher drag reported
* Tesla Roadster vs Lotus Elise = 2.77%

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Old 04-24-2021, 03:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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* HONDA FIT EV, = 14% lower overall drag
* FIAT 500e, = 13.37% lower overall drag than ' Lounge'
* Chevrolet SPARK EV = 9.72% lower overall drag
* Hyundai KONA EV = 9.37% lower overall drag
* SMART ED = 7.89% lower overall drag
* FIAT 500e = 6.3% lower overall drag than ' Pop'
* Volkswagen e-Golf = 5.92% lower overall drag
* KIA SOUL EV = zero difference reported
* Ford FOCUS EV = zero difference reported
* KIA Niro EV = 3.44% higher drag reported
* Tesla Roadster vs Lotus Elise = 2.77%
Yes, but what's your point?

Most manufacturers strive to lower aero drag on their electric cars, using a variety of changes.
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Old 04-24-2021, 05:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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* Tesla Roadster vs Lotus Elise = 2.77%
Is this the same car???
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes, but what's your point?

Most manufacturers strive to lower aero drag on their electric cars, using a variety of changes.
There is no 'point', it's just information. And there's not a lot of it available. You didn't offer it, so I went ahead.
If a member wants to ponder the 14% difference in Honda FIT drag, or anything else, so be it.
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Is this the same car???
Tesla bought ' gliders' from Lotus and electrified them. No specifics have ever surfaced that I could manage to snag.
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There is no 'point', it's just information.
A pointless post, then? OK, just so we know.
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A pointless post, then? OK, just so we know.
Members here at EcoModder.com have been known to 'ponder' things. Information is grist for that type of activity.
If knowledge is power, then information is a mechanism by which to achieve it.
As an educator, you're interested in empowering people, yes?
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Members here at EcoModder.com have been known to 'ponder' things.
Pondering is good. I like pondering. I came here to find a thread to post in on Elon Musk's Final Warning. The five most recently updated threads are two users going on about cooling drag.

That is away from pondering.

Solar Window. Might that upset all the equations?
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SolarWindow Technologies, Inc. (Symbol:WNDW) is developing the first-of-their-kind electricity-generating see-through windows and products for America's 85 million detached homes and commercial buildings.
So a 36hp Beetle with a conformal cap could be a gas/solar hybrid?

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