04-11-2014, 03:18 AM
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haha
brought one out of the wood-work i see
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04-11-2014, 03:30 AM
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so what kinda side mirror subs does this thing have?
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04-11-2014, 11:20 AM
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Any more pictures too? Would love to see the how you made the "sedan kamm" and know what kind of mileage you are putting down.
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04-11-2014, 01:21 PM
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04-12-2014, 02:53 AM
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Start researching fluid dynamics and reading Ecomodder.
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Light bathroom reading...
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I changed the EPA to reflect the gas mileage I typically attained before practicing ecomodding. This way I have something real to base my mods off since the actual EPA is ridiculously low.
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Official Fuel Economy Ratings
EPA city 36 mpg(US)
EPA highway 40 mpg(US)
EPA combined 38 mpg(US)
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Actual Fuel Economy Performance
Lifetime 47.37 mpg(US)
Last 3 tanks 47.97 mpg(US)
90 days 47.53 mpg(US)
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So, before he started trying, he got 38 MPG in his LX, while I hypermile at 42 MPG with an HX. Metro! How much would you charge to come down and teach me your way of the ninja?
Actually, I might never break even on just the plane tickets from that large country, all of the way across this large country, and back.
That Kamm-back almost looks discolored, but I am positive that I can see the clouds reflected on it! Black metal? I cannot imagine that black works much better in Texas than Arizona. I may still go through with my old idea:
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Is there white plasti-dip? :P
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I really want to see his Kamm-back build!
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04-12-2014, 07:02 AM
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It looks like it has a metal base with a rubber flap along the sides
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04-12-2014, 11:46 AM
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So, before he started trying, he got 38 MPG in his LX, while I hypermile at 42 MPG with an HX. Metro! How much would you charge to come down and teach me your way of the ninja?
If you hypermile a HX and only get 42 mpg, you seriously need to find out what is wrong with your HX. I can't beat my HX and not get over 42 mpg. With mild hypermiling I average over 55 mpg.
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04-12-2014, 12:47 PM
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Kammback-Part ABS plastic and part PVC plastic. I had a large ABS piece left from the other mods and did not want to waste it. To complete the sides I cut and fit PVC plastic.
Build-I started with a large area of 2mm thick coroplast and cut it until it looked and fit perfectly. I then put a rectangular 10mm thick piece of coroplast in the middle of the Kammback underneath the 2mm to add rigidity. I framed the rectangular piece with aluminum angle as well. I then put the ABS and PVC on last. At the end of the Kammback is another frame to really solidify it. This can be seen in one of the pics. Many small bolts go through all layers of plastic to bond it all together. Total weight it about 20 lbs. For my summer break, I will put polycarbonate as a 'rear window' to stop recirculation under the Kammback and 'recuperate' some thrust. Dust accumulation on the rear window is a substantial problem due to the dirty Texas air. Right now the Kammback looks horrible because it has two different types of plastics but once I graduate I plan to fiberglass it and sand it until I can shave with it. I haven't done it yet because it would require a lot of fiberglass which is expensive.
Mirrors-I have two interior convex mirrors and a Wink rear view mirror. If anyone plans on mirror deletes, I would highly suggest getting a Wink mirror as it allows nearly 180° of viewing. It only costs about $25 if I remember correctly. Allow a week to get used to it and then you can back into any parking spot easily.
The Kammback only has about 3 tanks on it so I can't attribute any gains to it yet. The single most effective mod to date is definitely the kill switch.
And a final note, thanks to all of you guys here for the inspiration. The info here is invaluable for time and money efficiency. You would not believe how many interviews I have gotten after putting my results on my resume.
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04-12-2014, 02:30 PM
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And a final note, thanks to all of you guys here for the inspiration. The info here is invaluable for time and money efficiency. You would not believe how many interviews I have gotten after putting my results on my resume.
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Somehow, I do not see that helping my pursuit of becoming a Speech Therapist!
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So, before he started trying, he got 38 MPG in his LX, while I hypermile at 42 MPG with an HX. Metro! How much would you charge to come down and teach me your way of the ninja?
If you hypermile a HX and only get 42 mpg, you seriously need to find out what is wrong with your HX. I can't beat my HX and not get over 42 mpg. With mild hypermiling I average over 55 mpg.
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Thanks, buddy! I also recently broke up with my girlfriend! Do you want to discuss that, too?
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04-12-2014, 10:46 PM
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...and a Wink rear view mirror. If anyone plans on mirror deletes, I would highly suggest getting a Wink mirror as it allows nearly 180° of viewing. It only costs about $25 if I remember correctly. Allow a week to get used to it and then you can back into any parking spot easily.
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I just removed my 5-panel Wink mirror from my Jeep- while it allowed me to see behind me and to the side [and was handy with a canopy/topper on the bed], it vibrated too much and just never felt right, even with almost a year in the truck. I picked up a Broadway mirror to go over the factory one I put back on, but it's almost worse than the Wink since everything is so small. I'm sure if I fashioned some sort of center brace for the Wink it would have not vibrated so much, but to each their own.
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