Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-11-2014, 02:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
mbolton1990's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: perry fl
Posts: 103

eco-crx - '90 honda crx hf
Team Honda
90 day: 56.89 mpg (US)
Thanks: 23
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
haha

brought one out of the wood-work i see


  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-11-2014, 02:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: fremont,california,usa
Posts: 33

baby beluga - '90 toyota camry dx wagon
90 day: 29.21 mpg (US)

red1 - '97 Matsuda Miata
90 day: 31.01 mpg (US)
Thanks: 70
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
so what kinda side mirror subs does this thing have?
__________________
Sorry, new users are not permitted to post links in their signatures.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2014, 10:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
Spaced out...
 
spacemanspif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Dirty Jersey
Posts: 748

The New Focus - '07 Ford Focus ZX5
90 day: 32.44 mpg (US)
Thanks: 142
Thanked 205 Times in 149 Posts
Any more pictures too? Would love to see the how you made the "sedan kamm" and know what kind of mileage you are putting down.
__________________
-Mike

2007 Ford Focus ZX5 - 91k - SGII, pending upper and lower grill bocks - auto trans
1987 Monte Carlo SS - 5.3/4L80E swap - 13.67 @ 106
2007 Ford Focus Estate - 230k - 33mpg - Retired 4/2018
1995 Saturn SL2 - 256K miles - 44mpg - Retired 9/2014

Cost to Operate Spreadsheet for "The New Focus"

  Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2014, 12:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
Administrator
 
Daox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 11,203

CM400E - '81 Honda CM400E
90 day: 51.49 mpg (US)

Daox's Grey Prius - '04 Toyota Prius
Team Toyota
90 day: 49.53 mpg (US)

Daox's Insight - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 64.33 mpg (US)

Swarthy - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage DE
Mitsubishi
90 day: 56.69 mpg (US)

Daox's Volt - '13 Chevrolet Volt
Thanks: 2,501
Thanked 2,586 Times in 1,554 Posts
He does have a fuel log here: 2004 Honda Civic LX Gas Mileage (A.J.) - EcoModder.com

And a few pictures in his car's profile: Details: A.J. - 2004 Honda Civic LX Fuel Economy - EcoModder.com

I'll repost them cause I'm nice:





__________________
Current project: A better alternator delete
  Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Daox For This Useful Post:
aerohead (04-11-2014), BamZipPow (08-09-2015), bespurcell (11-20-2014), Cd (09-17-2014), COcyclist (04-11-2014), whatmaycome14 (06-05-2014), Xist (04-12-2014)
Old 04-12-2014, 01:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,186

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 29.44 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,225
Thanked 2,217 Times in 1,708 Posts
Quote:
Start researching fluid dynamics and reading Ecomodder.
Light bathroom reading...

Quote:
I changed the EPA to reflect the gas mileage I typically attained before practicing ecomodding. This way I have something real to base my mods off since the actual EPA is ridiculously low.
Quote:
Official Fuel Economy Ratings
EPA city 36 mpg(US)
EPA highway 40 mpg(US)
EPA combined 38 mpg(US)
Quote:
Actual Fuel Economy Performance
Lifetime 47.37 mpg(US)
Last 3 tanks 47.97 mpg(US)
90 days 47.53 mpg(US)
So, before he started trying, he got 38 MPG in his LX, while I hypermile at 42 MPG with an HX. Metro! How much would you charge to come down and teach me your way of the ninja?

Actually, I might never break even on just the plane tickets from that large country, all of the way across this large country, and back.

That Kamm-back almost looks discolored, but I am positive that I can see the clouds reflected on it! Black metal? I cannot imagine that black works much better in Texas than Arizona. I may still go through with my old idea:

Quote:
Is there white plasti-dip? :P
I really want to see his Kamm-back build!
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2014, 06:02 AM   #16 (permalink)
0.29 Cd and decreasing
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 184

Red Rocket - '90 honda CRX HF
Team Honda
Team "Old SKOOL"
90 day: 53.46 mpg (US)
Thanks: 29
Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts
It looks like it has a metal base with a rubber flap along the sides
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2014, 10:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
iveyjh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Posts: 222

none - '98 Honda Civic HX

none - '00 Chevy (Geo) Metro base

none - '00 Saturn SL1 base
Thanks: 126
Thanked 77 Times in 50 Posts
So, before he started trying, he got 38 MPG in his LX, while I hypermile at 42 MPG with an HX. Metro! How much would you charge to come down and teach me your way of the ninja?

If you hypermile a HX and only get 42 mpg, you seriously need to find out what is wrong with your HX. I can't beat my HX and not get over 42 mpg. With mild hypermiling I average over 55 mpg.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2014, 11:47 AM   #18 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 14

A.J. - '04 Honda Civic LX
90 day: 41.47 mpg (US)

bruce - '08 Kawasaki Ninja 650 R
90 day: 46.52 mpg (US)

Big Blue - '09 Ford F-150 LX
90 day: 17.33 mpg (US)

dr - '13 Kawasaki DR650
90 day: 55.32 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 64 Times in 9 Posts
Kammback-Part ABS plastic and part PVC plastic. I had a large ABS piece left from the other mods and did not want to waste it. To complete the sides I cut and fit PVC plastic.

Build-I started with a large area of 2mm thick coroplast and cut it until it looked and fit perfectly. I then put a rectangular 10mm thick piece of coroplast in the middle of the Kammback underneath the 2mm to add rigidity. I framed the rectangular piece with aluminum angle as well. I then put the ABS and PVC on last. At the end of the Kammback is another frame to really solidify it. This can be seen in one of the pics. Many small bolts go through all layers of plastic to bond it all together. Total weight it about 20 lbs. For my summer break, I will put polycarbonate as a 'rear window' to stop recirculation under the Kammback and 'recuperate' some thrust. Dust accumulation on the rear window is a substantial problem due to the dirty Texas air. Right now the Kammback looks horrible because it has two different types of plastics but once I graduate I plan to fiberglass it and sand it until I can shave with it. I haven't done it yet because it would require a lot of fiberglass which is expensive.

Mirrors-I have two interior convex mirrors and a Wink rear view mirror. If anyone plans on mirror deletes, I would highly suggest getting a Wink mirror as it allows nearly 180° of viewing. It only costs about $25 if I remember correctly. Allow a week to get used to it and then you can back into any parking spot easily.

The Kammback only has about 3 tanks on it so I can't attribute any gains to it yet. The single most effective mod to date is definitely the kill switch.


And a final note, thanks to all of you guys here for the inspiration. The info here is invaluable for time and money efficiency. You would not believe how many interviews I have gotten after putting my results on my resume.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to bs25942 For This Useful Post:
aerohead (04-12-2014), BamZipPow (08-17-2014), bespurcell (11-20-2014), brucepick (04-18-2014), California98Civic (04-15-2014), Fat Charlie (04-14-2014), Joggernot (08-15-2015), mpg_numbers_guy (04-12-2018), NachtRitter (04-12-2014), some_other_dave (04-12-2014), UltArc (04-13-2014), wmjinman (04-28-2014), Xist (04-12-2014)
Old 04-12-2014, 01:30 PM   #19 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,186

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 29.44 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,225
Thanked 2,217 Times in 1,708 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by bs25942 View Post
And a final note, thanks to all of you guys here for the inspiration. The info here is invaluable for time and money efficiency. You would not believe how many interviews I have gotten after putting my results on my resume.
Somehow, I do not see that helping my pursuit of becoming a Speech Therapist!

Quote:
Originally Posted by iveyjh View Post
So, before he started trying, he got 38 MPG in his LX, while I hypermile at 42 MPG with an HX. Metro! How much would you charge to come down and teach me your way of the ninja?

If you hypermile a HX and only get 42 mpg, you seriously need to find out what is wrong with your HX. I can't beat my HX and not get over 42 mpg. With mild hypermiling I average over 55 mpg.
Thanks, buddy! I also recently broke up with my girlfriend! Do you want to discuss that, too?
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Xist For This Useful Post:
Flakbadger (04-15-2014)
Old 04-12-2014, 09:46 PM   #20 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Oceanic815's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Central Oregon, USA
Posts: 59

02 Escape - '02 Ford Escape
SUV
90 day: 17.99 mpg (US)

87 Comanche - '87 Jeep MJ
90 day: 24.21 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by bs25942 View Post
...and a Wink rear view mirror. If anyone plans on mirror deletes, I would highly suggest getting a Wink mirror as it allows nearly 180° of viewing. It only costs about $25 if I remember correctly. Allow a week to get used to it and then you can back into any parking spot easily.
I just removed my 5-panel Wink mirror from my Jeep- while it allowed me to see behind me and to the side [and was handy with a canopy/topper on the bed], it vibrated too much and just never felt right, even with almost a year in the truck. I picked up a Broadway mirror to go over the factory one I put back on, but it's almost worse than the Wink since everything is so small. I'm sure if I fashioned some sort of center brace for the Wink it would have not vibrated so much, but to each their own.

__________________
15 Toyota Prius Three with solar roof - rear diffuser
08 Ferd Escape 2wd 4cyl - stock
85 Volvo 245 lowered with IPD springs and Bilsteins
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com