Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-26-2011, 03:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 62

2005 Dakota - '05 Dodge Dakota SLT
90 day: 15.26 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Well, I haven't tuft tested it, i've only watched snow, examined snow piling up, rain coming off roof, etc.
BUT, all those things would be falling anyways, so they may be hitting sooner than the air anways. Seems that rain/snow hits about 3/4 the way back and then goes straight back. I could see it in the snow that would stay on the back of the truck. It actually wore grooves in it and everything for me
Tuft testing coming this spring I guess!
Kinda want a handle on the thing though....

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 03-26-2011, 05:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,267
Thanks: 24,392
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
spoiler

I just wanted to concur with what the others have said.The tufts will tell you about re-attachment.
If they're pointing towards the rear you're good.
If not,the spoiler will reach higher and hopefully catch the airstream free of turbulence.
As far as tailgate spoilers,what t vago said is what I've read.The truck will do better with the gate up and the 'spoiler' will hopefully help remind you to raise the gate.
Final thought.I have installed only the back half of an 'aeroshell' on a rigid tonneau.This structure fills in a portion of the otherwise larger turbulent wake behind the cab.It better tailors the locked-vortex.You might see an 8% mpg increase.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2011, 10:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 62

2005 Dakota - '05 Dodge Dakota SLT
90 day: 15.26 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Dodge - 2010 Dakota - Design - Beds and Cabs

They put this "spoiler" on the new dakotas as well... probably so they keep the tailgate up. I like the halfway up setup they have there though... a 4x8 sheet has to sit on top of the wheel wells, and that would really help support it. Great idea for a small truck.

too bad they're discontinuing the truck
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2011, 04:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
 
BamZipPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,921

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

2012 Scion iQ - '12 Scion iQ Base
Thanks: 3,502
Thanked 1,395 Times in 968 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
Did you notice that the tonneau cover requires you to remove the spoiler/wing?
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2011, 10:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 62

2005 Dakota - '05 Dodge Dakota SLT
90 day: 15.26 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
LOL yes bam!
If you read the original post, the idea was to put this wing ON the cover, partly as a handle. If the wing seems like it will be of no value, then I will be putting on a small handle. I get greasy/messy/dusty/dirty and it really mucks up the back of the truck since I have to just lift on the lip of the lid. I will be putting SOMETHING back there, but if it's just a handle, i'll put it behind the lid, so that the air should go over it. If the "spoiler" is at least a little effective, then i'll add that since it is made of heavy duty rubber/plastic and I won't feel bad getting it a little dirty.

I hope to tuft test a little this week to see where the air is reattached to the truck in the back at speed (usually a max of 70 mph)

PS. Working on electric fan from my mustang, woot!
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2011, 10:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
 
BamZipPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,921

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

2012 Scion iQ - '12 Scion iQ Base
Thanks: 3,502
Thanked 1,395 Times in 968 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
Wink

You might be able to shape a pool noodle to the same shape and attach it with some tape to yer tonneau cover.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2011, 06:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
At the 1:00 and 2:33 min marks it shows the flow completely missing the lower 1/4 of the windshield... just sayin'!
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2011, 06:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 62

2005 Dakota - '05 Dodge Dakota SLT
90 day: 15.26 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Lee View Post
At the 1:00 and 2:33 min marks it shows the flow completely missing the lower 1/4 of the windshield... just sayin'!
LOL it's a truck, but yeah...
I'm sure as time progresses, the standard will be like .35 for trucks and .2 for cars, but till then... there is room for improvement!

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com