Thwaites Glacier

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

One has to do is move slightly above sea level.
So there's no fertile ground slightly above sea level?
You make it sound like man's actions are some how comparable to the sea level rising 300 feet all on its own.
Let's hope there's another 300 feet of sea level rise before the next ice age.

Do you really not know or do you just pretend?

At the danger of elaborating the obvious:
The most common source for fertile grounds are river deposits; the finer the better. The finest sediments occur where the water flows the slowest: the river deltas where the river meets the sea. Long winding rivers slowly building up deposits in their bends and eroding the marshy lands around them, winding back and forth and in time covering all of the land with deposits.
This happens at sea level or very slightly above. Higher laying lands don't have fresh deposits and get poorer and poorer over time.

Over 8,000 years the sea level has remained more or less the same. So the deltas have expanded out and over shallow seas, covering them with layer after layer of fine clay.

I live in the Netherlands which is a relatively small country with a high population density. At 52 degrees North is does not get abundant sunshine. Yet, the ground is extremely well suited for agriculture. And it shows: this tiny speck of a country is the 2nd largest exporter of agricultural goods.


Now what you need to know is that half of our country is below sea level. And that part does produce the vast majority of our food, even though it also has 80% of our population living there taking up valuable space with roads and houses. The higher parts are more sandy and yield less crop.

Now if we were to lose the lower half of our country the other half would likely be strained to feed the people living there, never mind those who were displaced, never mind exports.

The same is true elsewhere. If you look at the map to compare f.i. Russia and Bangladesh, which country would you think houses more people?
The tiny one that is all at sea level of course.
Everywhere you'll see dense population wherever the ground is low and fertile.

And now you'll see them run into problems, like Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia and the second largest metropole in the world.
Which will be abandoned for Nusantara on Borneo soon due to excessive flooding.
To be fair, the city is sinking on its own and would duly flood over even without rising sea levels. But the latter does hasten the process.

But who cares about Bangladesh, or the Netherlands, or Venice, Florida, food, life? We want oil. We wanna go in a flaming chariot!

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

My take is that we're in an interglacial period, and the Earth is a homeostatic system.

I suppose that Climate scientists would have agreed until they noticed changes occurring on timescales which are unprecedented in Earth's history.
'Interglacial' is technically defined by a certain specific sea level, which has been exceeded now.
The 'cryosphere', which up until recently, has been defined by 'permanent' ice is going away. And it's going away at an accelerating level. Hence the term 'non-linear.'
With the blanket of greenhouse gases, heat which would have otherwise escaped to space, is now trapped.
If you look at Earth from space, it indicates around the same temperature as the moon. That temperature is coming from around 8-miles altitude in the atmosphere.
Below 8-miles it's averaging around 60-F, annually. That's the troposphere, where we live, where 'climate' is.
Earth is no longer the planet man has experienced for millennia.
Like I've said, when you set a fire larger than the Earth itself, somethings bound to happen.

[redneck]

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[RedDevil]

Anyway, back on topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMqpI4gpfVs

As usual, a lot of interesting but unrelated stuff. Then at 13:23 the glacier's turn is up.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Earth is no longer the planet man has experienced for millennia.

[Hu]man's experience itself has changed in the last few years. Evolution has been replaced by Simulation Theory.

Thus, we are all responsible for everything. Where we go one, as they say....

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by redneck

Insurance companies don’t like to make payouts. They are in business to make money. Just like banks that loan money on those properties. If things were as dire as predicted, neither would touch them with a ten foot pole.


To add to my original post.


Our leaders should lead by example.

You know, walk the walk.

Not just talk the talk...




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Just like Federal flood insurance and too big to fail
The Insurance companies generally make more money on these uninsurable properties because there is government backing involved.

Places that cannot get this backing do not have big homes built on them that fall in the ocean every couple decades.

If you watched the “liberal media” several times in the last 40 years there have been big exposé’s on this problem of rich people building in unbuildable areas because they get a government guarantee that nets them “in effect “ free rent until the home becomes ocean bound, as stated
Downright ancient problem that has never been fixed.

Law is meant to help poor fishermen relocate and instead pays for rich man’s man million dollar homes being improperly located

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

[Hu]man's experience itself has changed in the last few years. Evolution has been replaced by Simulation Theory.

Thus, we are all responsible for everything. Where we go one, as they say....

Some might argue that, while evolution exists outside the mind of man, responsibility exists solely within.
And while human experience may change, man does not.
Personally, I'm 99.6% chimpanzee, so I can't be held to standards of any height.

[oil pan 4]

Not screwed at all. Remember the doomsday glacier back around 2015? Yeah it melted and nothing happened. I'm not sure what was supposed to happen.

[freebeard]

CGI Animated Short Film: "400 MPH" by 400 MPH Team

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Not screwed at all. Remember the doomsday glacier back around 2015? Yeah it melted and nothing happened. I'm not sure what was supposed to happen.

Never heard of it.