03-05-2015, 02:48 PM
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Tire that makes electricty
https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...134602398.html
Tire that makes electricity???
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The first, dubbed the BH-03, combines two fairly advanced technologies to generate electricity from the tire itself that could help recharge electric vehicle batteries on the road. A weave of thermoelectric fibers transforms the heat generated by the tire's friction with the road into energy, while piezioelectric material does the same using changes in the tire's shape as it moves. Goodyear didn't suggest how much energy such a set of tires could potentially create, but said if put into production could ease EV owners' range anxiety.
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03-05-2015, 03:04 PM
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Interesting concept. That specific tire/wheel combo pictured wouldn't last long in a real driving environment with potholes curbs etc.
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03-05-2015, 03:24 PM
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I wonder what kind of rolling resistance they will wind up with?
Remember, you can also put linear generators on your shock absorbers. Those don't make enough power to bother with, though. This may turn out to be a similar deal...
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03-05-2015, 03:49 PM
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Interesting concept. That specific tire/wheel combo pictured wouldn't last long in a real driving environment with potholes curbs etc.
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Potholes would make more electricity due to the tire's deflection lol
How does it transmit the power to the car? A bare end of a wire rubbing on a stationary plate at the center hub?
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03-05-2015, 07:55 PM
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How does it transmit the power to the car? A bare end of a wire rubbing on a stationary plate at the center hub?
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Chances are the friction of that would cancel out the gains. It would have to be via two electrically isolated bearings, or possibly some form of magnetic induction set up.
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03-06-2015, 02:13 PM
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It takes work to generate electricity. Every watt of electricity generated is added rolling resistance. The total increase in rolling resistance is equal to the electricity generated divided by the efficiency of generating that electricity.
It's a variation of the old perpetual motion scheme of connecting a generator to the front wheels to drive an electric motor on the rear wheels.
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I think that regenerative shock absorbers have a better prospect at being practical.
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03-06-2015, 07:33 PM
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It takes work to generate electricity. Every watt of electricity generated is added rolling resistance. The total increase in rolling resistance is equal to the electricity generated divided by the efficiency of generating that electricity.
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I agree that it doesn't seem practical. But the tyre is deflecting anyway, using this deflection to generate electricity will add resistance to the tread deforming, basically making the tread stiffer and reducing rolling res. Problem for us would be as you raise tyre pressure the energy generated will drop.
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I think that regenerative shock absorbers have a better prospect at being practical.
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True. A shock absorber converts suspension movement into heat by churning a fluid. A regenerative shock absorber would convert that movement into electricity instead of heat.
The downside is that smooth roads would generate very little electricity, and regenerative shocks would be heavier than standard shocks. Regenerative shocks would be perfect for somebody driving on washboard gravel roads.
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