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Old 04-21-2014, 12:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I like the floor mat idea for the use of old tires...assuming they won't make the cabin smell like old tires lol. Once enough orange oil tires make it to the stock of supplies for floor mats, they can market them as floor mat air fresheners!

I wonder how much waste could be saved if we all ran out tires until the belts started poking out the sides?? Could it be something as significant as 1 less set of tires bought over the lifetime of a vehicle owner? Y million of drivers multiplied by 4 = Yx4 million tires NEVER hitting the dumpster...

The old saying is reduce, reuse, recycle and I'm not sure that general person understands the message that first you should reduce your waste, then try to reuse what you can and you last resort should be recycle.

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Old 04-21-2014, 10:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I will not run my tires any lower than the wear bars. Traction, especially when wet, is already noticeably degraded at that point. I'm highly in favor of efficiency (I'm here, right? ), but not at the expense of safety.
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Old 04-21-2014, 02:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I wonder if the increased resilience also increases rolling resistance?
Its a very safe bet it will.
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We had an interesting failure back in 96 when they tried using tires as road bed fill. It started to burn underneath the road.

You Can Burn Rubber On This Stretch Of Road Shredded Tires Used As Fill Have Smoldered And Burst Into Flame, Prompting Closure - Spokesman.com - Jan. 31, 1996

After this article was written it got bad enough that they had little black volcanos of goo erupting through the tarmac. They had to dig up the road and haul it off the shredded tire fill to where it could burn itself out somewhere else.

EDIT: The epicness of this failure is more than I thought. It is cited as case number one in a report on scrap tire fires published in 1998. The road bed cost $1 million to create and $3 million to dispose of and clean up. When tearing up the road, the exposed the shredded tires that suddenly burst into flames

"When the tire chips were exposed to oxygen in the air during excavation, the fire flared up and engulfed the excavation equipment"

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http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/p...ons/tr-093.pdf
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I run retreads on my Jeep.

Next set will be retrads as well!
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My tire engineer friend is pretty adamant that tires cant be recycled into new tires, but thats ok because yokohama has replaced petroleum oil in their "Avid Ascend" tire line with orange oil, as in the oils extracted from disguard orange peels.
There is clearly a much bigger market for used tires now then there was 20 years ago.
they have replaced some petroleum with orange oils. Not all of it.
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The orange oil has some extra acidity to it, which supposedly makes the rubber more pliable. This helps them grip the road better, despite the high silica content and low rolling resistance design.
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Old 04-23-2014, 12:57 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Rubber in the roads I would think would actually improve traction and our mpg. Heres my theory. If it keeps the road surface from cracking and breaking up over the roads lifetime, then now we won't have to: dodge potholes, run over large cracks / upheavels from freeze thaw.

Just a throught. Maybe it equals out who knows.

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