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[oil pan 4]

The main reason tires go bald is bad alignment and driving it like you stole it.
Wearing out too soon is the most common complaint across all makes and models of tires.

[California98Civic]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

The main reason tires go bald is bad alignment and driving it like you stole it.
Wearing out too soon is the most common complaint across all makes and models of tires.

Lack of proper rotation schedule too.

[101Volts]

I read a review on Tirerack.com about them that said "I was rotating them";

Originally Posted by Reviewer

"Yokohama AVID Ascend (H- or V-Speed Rated) (Grand Touring All-Season) Reviewer's Overall Rating: 5.64

2002 Volvo V70 2.4T AWD More Tire Reviews for This Vehicle

25,000Miles driven on tires:

BLOOMFIELD HILLS, MILocation:

Combined Highway/CityDriving Condition:

SpiritedDriving Style:

1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:

Initial Review, 25,000 Miles on Tires

April 12, 2014

Fresh alignment, rotated regularly, and tire all worn to need of replacement after only 25,000 miles in 2 1/2 years. Very disappointed in overall life. The tread wear is even on all 4 tires, and car alignment done annually. With AWD on my XC70, one would expect even ware, as I did. Howevere tread life is now at .142, these tires are useless in Michigan winter conditions. On a positive note, the ride comfort and noise levels are fantastic!"

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

The 205/65R15 size would work but I think I would try to go away from 15 inch car tires and go to 16s.
Then get 215/65R16 tires, they would be about an inch taller than the OEM size.

Coming back to this conversation, If I were to jump up to 16s would that change the odometer readings? The odometer is accurate with the current tires at least for a 126.6 mile trip.

[Thenorm]

Originally Posted by 101Volts

I've still been thinking of buying the P205/65R15s,.

going from 205/75R15 to 205/65R15 is a big change in diameter of tire. your rpm would be much higher at cruising speed.

[Cobb]

I think I lost as much as 5 mpg with the avid envigors in oem size. BUT, BUT, BUT, the traction well made up for it. I had a deer jump out in front of me at 70 mph on i295 one night. I twisted the steering wheel and swerved a lane over and back with no problems. Ive also driven around in the snow n ice in Richmond the past few winters with no problems. I did have problems this winter, but I also got 2 tires that need to be replaced. True this is my second set in 2 years, but I am driving like I stole it.

Down side I cant do a screaming burn out. I got the touring s on my sidekick and I can do a mini burn out, then it grips.

[101Volts]

Originally Posted by Thenorm

going from 205/75R15 to 205/65R15 is a big change in diameter of tire. your rpm would be much higher at cruising speed.

OK. Well then, Out of all the tire sizes these AVID Ascends are available in now is there one recommended for the Caprice that allows a lower RPM? Or is there another LRR tire that will fit while keeping the odometer readings close to the way they are now? I asked about this on Tirerack.com and was suggested this tire:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e&autoModClar=

[oil pan 4]

I say stick the largest size you can on there and hand calculate your MPGs.
Figure out the difference in tire size percentage wise and when you fill up add athat precentage to your tank miles.
I have to do that with my suburban.
Plus you dont want close, a 3% difference is close. Add the difference to your milage even if its 1 or 2 percent. The slightly larger tire is likely to throw off the odometer reading by at least 2 or 3 percent and that could easily make a 1 mpg difference.

Shop around. When we put bigger ascends on the hyundai they were $9 per tire cheaper than the OE size ascend, That made the larger ascends the same price as the cheapest smaller OEM size tire.
$36, thats most of a tank of gas right there.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by Cobb

I think I lost as much as 5 mpg with the avid envigors in oem size. BUT, BUT, BUT, the traction well made up for it. I had a deer jump out in front of me at 70 mph on i295 one night. I twisted the steering wheel and swerved a lane over and back with no problems. Ive also driven around in the snow n ice in Richmond the past few winters with no problems. I did have problems this winter, but I also got 2 tires that need to be replaced. True this is my second set in 2 years, but I am driving like I stole it.

Down side I cant do a screaming burn out. I got the touring s on my sidekick and I can do a mini burn out, then it grips.

The envigors are pretty wild.
I had ultra high preformance W speed rated "S4" tires on the camaro for a while.
I could barely do a burn out they were so grippy. Way too much tire.
Think I am going to tone it down and put envigors on it.
My friend gets about 50k miles on a set of S4 tires on his 4th gen camaro with a V6 engine.
They don't drive the camaro a lot so about the time the tires start to side wall crack they are warn out.

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by California98Civic

Lack of proper rotation schedule too.

Ironically, some people (not me) advocate NOT rotating tires TOO often, ie: not more than once a year or so.

[101Volts]

I've found that according to Automobile-Catalog (1984 Chevrolet Caprice Classic Sedan 5.0L V-8 automatic overdrive tire sizes (since September 1983 for North America U.S.)) These Yokohama AVID Ascends work:

225/65 R 16 - 1.6% Larger than OEM - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....6ASC&tab=Sizes

225/60 R 17 - 2.0% Larger than OEM - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....7ASC&tab=Sizes

I also found this size works but these AVID Ascends offered are not 215s, They're P215s.

215/55 R 18 - 0.9% Larger than OEM - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....8ASC&tab=Sizes

Got suggestions?