01-09-2021, 04:47 PM
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Why isn't someone driving my car I left at the airport while I'm driving someone's car at my destination?
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Once autonomous vehicles are here [you/one/they] can ride in a prison with a prison in [your/ones/their] pocket.
Will Tesla sell you a ride-share vehicle, or will they field them all as robo-taxis?
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01-09-2021, 05:32 PM
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Yeah I think I covered this
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01-09-2021, 06:20 PM
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Well... thank you for your contribution.
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01-10-2021, 08:24 PM
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Will Tesla sell you a ride-share vehicle, or will they field them all as robo-taxis?
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I guess personal ownership of an autonomous ride-share vehicle will be lower than business ownership of them, yet some people would still consider it quite convenient to own a car for any specific reason. Just look at aircraft ownership, as it might be the closest to the business model of autonomous cars in a long term.
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That's nice, too bad the camping culture is not so well developed in Brazil. This and safety concerns would make me prefer a Kombi, as its footprint is not so much greater than a Beetle's.
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01-10-2021, 09:31 PM
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Canoo have an interesting business model: subscription.
It slots in between renting and leasing.
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01-20-2021, 02:41 PM
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I look forward to the day we can replace our AWD subaru impreza AND toyota tundra with a Tesla Y like vehicle.
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01-20-2021, 02:58 PM
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01-20-2021, 03:16 PM
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One time, a renovation contractor had forgotten to lay me off on Friday, and on Monday, I spotted a job on his list that I could handle by festooning my bicycle with tools and materials. I got to do it, but the customer was, um, surprised.
I used to ride with a few 2 Xs strapped to the top tube, but if I had to carry a 4 X 8 sheet, I would clamp a board to the handlebars to support it and let me walk and steer from the side, and put most of the weight on the seat.
I have filled a Toyota Celica fastback with green firewood.
I have loaded a small boat upright into the back seat of a Morris Minor Convertible.
My father hauled hay bales in a box on a boat trailer behind an Oldsmobile.
In the 1-seat Metro, I have hauled a large tank and reel air compressor, and regularly pack a display that requires 2' X 9' X 6", leaving the hatch open a bit, with air deflectors, etc.
I have also filled it with scrap metal roofing, rough lumber, and a full camper for one. On top, I've had a 19' kayak.
I've crossed the US over 1/2 way in a Ford Fairlane wagon crammed with a velomobile in pieces, leaving only room for a sleeping tunnel for the off-duty driver, and another velo on the roof, blessedly streamlined.
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There is no excuse for a land vehicle to weigh more than its average payload.
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01-20-2021, 04:36 PM
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Back of my i3.
But I decided 3 years ago that everything a truck can do for me, a decent trailer or my rarely used SUV can do better.
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01-20-2021, 05:21 PM
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Back of my i3.
But I decided 3 years ago that everything a truck can do for me, a decent trailer or my rarely used SUV can do better.
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A half ton truck can haul 1,000lbs. A full ton truck can haul 2,000lbs. Most car hitches are rated between 2,000-3,000lbs. Of course the weight of the trailer takes up some of that. But still, my little 1,200lb GVWR flat bed trailer can haul as much as a Ford F-150 but with a nice 4x8 surface that's much closer to the ground and so much easier to access.
Pickups make sense when you need to tow a trailer that's in excess of 2,000-3,000lbs.
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