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Old 10-04-2008, 05:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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noise pollution?

Shooting flames would be cool though

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Old 10-04-2008, 05:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Dodge tried, but I think it was too finicky and soaked up gas like a paper towel :



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The turbine itself. Chrysler wrote: "The present performance and economy of the Turbine are comparable to a conventional car with a standard V-8 engine. The engine will operate satisfactorily on diesel fuel, kerosene, unleaded gasoline, JP-4 (jet fuel), and mixtures thereof. And, even more interesting, it is possible to change from one of these fuels to another without any changes or adjustments to the engine."
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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issue with turbine engines is the speed variation needed for automative applications.
They operate at a narrow rpm band most effectively
Series hybrid would be awsome.

I recall seeing something where i guy did this with a Hummer..
have to search for it again - but he has some CRAZY MPG as the setup charged the batteries in like an hour.

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Did you ever stop and ask why - in a hypercompetitive auto market - nobody ever offered a turbine?
Hyper-competitive? But what were/are they competing on? Not fuel economy, that's for sure.

You could ask the same question about a lot of things. How come Detroit has never offered a real sports car? How come it doesn't build small pickups or vans? Why did GM drop the electric car? How come nobody ever offered hybrids before Honda & Toyota? There were working experimental models in the 70s: Godfather of the Hybrid

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Hyper-competitive? But what were/are they competing on? Not fuel economy, that's for sure.

You could ask the same question about a lot of things. How come Detroit has never offered a real sports car? How come it doesn't build small pickups or vans? Why did GM drop the electric car? How come nobody ever offered hybrids before Honda & Toyota? There were working experimental models in the 70s: Godfather of the Hybrid
Fantastic article. I never knew about any of this. I thought hybrids only happened on paper in the universities in the 1980's.

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Why did GM drop the electric car? Same reason everybody else did: batteries.
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Fantastic article. I never knew about any of this. I thought hybrids only happened on paper in the universities in the 1980's.

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A jet powered Geo.......... Come on, a JET POWERED GEO!!! What could possibly be more cool than that?
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A jet powered Geo.......... Come on, a JET POWERED GEO!!! What could possibly be more cool than that?





Jet Powered New Beetle


Not cooler, just completed, now make one in a Geo and that would be one hell of a sleeper!
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Why did GM drop the electric car? Same reason everybody else did: batteries.
That doesn't exactly hold up, since the people that had those EVs seemed to be quite happy with the batteries they had. Sure, there are a lot of people who couldn't have used the EVs with the sort of range they had, but isn't that a big part of Detroit's problem, thinking that every vehicle has to work for everyone, so they wind up building cars that only suit the almost-mythical average driver?

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