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Old 03-15-2012, 02:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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vortex generators

Everytime I open the fridge door I am troubled by the obvious inefficiency of moving a huge flat Piece of metal through the thick dense atmosphere of sea level air pressure. I shudder at the inefficiencies of airflow, so I decided to do something about it. I fabricated these vortex generators for the fridge door.

I am seeing decreased drag and my suspicion is backed up by a-b-a coast down testing.













just kidding I made these for my batchback but it is snowing today so they will just stay on the fridge. I am hoping to decrease my use of the rear wiper and hope that my washer fluid efficiency will be reduced by 15%. I am shooting for 1gallon per week savings!

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Old 03-15-2012, 03:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I see those as being very effective at the monkey-sphincter interface area
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Leave them where they are.
do you think they are doing that much good on the fridge. I know they look good.
With the lack of definate testing done, why do you say leave them there?
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So you will be using maybe several hundred watts all the time instead of maybe one hundred watts some insignificant fraction of the time.

Some cammback-like cover might be a better choice.
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It's been pretty conclusively proven here that vortex generators, especially home made ones, do not help economy.
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I think I might make a kamm back for my refrigerator! I already have one on my sofa!
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It's been pretty conclusively proven here that vortex generators, especially home made ones, do not help economy.
I am hoping to lessen the use of rear wiper! I thought there was no evidence around use in hatchbacks. I guess i'll look some more .
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You've already got energy-sapping vortexes from the angled rear window. Just make a partial Kammback to cancel them out!



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